Clean Hands Trophy

  • Clean Hands

     

    You completed the game without killing anyone

    Missable

    Exactly what the description states - you must finish the game, start to finish in one run, without killing anyone. Chapter select does not for this trophy, so you must earn it one playthrough. That means no pistols, regular crossbow shots, assassinations or regular sword fights. If you must take out a guard or eliminate a main target, you must do so non-lethally, using either chokes, sleep darts or indirect means. There are more less-common ways of killing someone, and these may occur without you even knowing. The community lead at Bethesda compiled a list of ways that you can inadvertently kill someone (source) in Dishonored. It is really useful information that should be memorized, so to not accidentally kill someone during your Clean Hands playthrough. The information is as follows:

    • Sleep Darting or Choking out an NPC and having them hit an object when falling, causing death
    • Sleep Darting or Choking out an NPC near a ledge and having them fall to cause death
    • Sleep Darting or Choking out an NPC and having them fall into water will cause drowning death
    • Sleep Darting or Choking an NPC and allowing them to fall down a long flight of stairs will sometimes cause them to die (possible with the stairs in the Overseer building)
    • Placing an unconscious NPC in water, or even near shallow puddles, can cause drowning death
    • Placing an unconscious body on un-even terrain near water can sometimes lead to the NPC slowly moving and falling into water, which would count as an NPC kill (in Prison Sewers for example)
    • Rendering an NPC unconscious near a damage source (such as a fireplace or lit grill) may cause the NPC to take damage and die
    • Leaving an unconscious NPC in the middle of the street or alley, where rats have access to the body, can result in clean-up which will count as a kill for the player
    • Accidentally casting Devouring Swarm near an unconscious NPC could cause the rats to clean up the body, counting as a NPC kill
    • Accidentally casting Windblast near an unconscious NPC could cause damage leading to NPC death
    • Having a Grenade, Springrazor or Whale Oil Battery explode near an unconscious NPC could cause splash damage resulting in NPC death
    • Throwing an unconscious NPC into a Wall of Light, or near and Arc Pylon would incinerate the NPC and count as a kill
    • Leaving unconscious NPCs in the area around the large door on which the player places the explosive device in Prison will cause the NPCs to die when the device goes off. This includes in and around the nearby dumpster and behind the consoles and gate switch across from the door on the upper level.
    • Rendering an enemy unconscious while fighting a nearby Tallboy can cause the Tallboy to stomp at the player, essentially killing the nearby unconscious NPC in the process
    • Rendering an enemy unconscious and having another enemy throw a projectile (such as fire bottle or grenade) at the player, can kill the nearby unconscious NPC
    • Leaving an NPC unconscious in the Brothel Steam room may cause “bite” damage due to hagfish in the center pool, killing the NPC

    To make this goal easier on yourself, avoid as much contact with the enemy as possible. Powers such as Blink 2 and Blend Time 2 really help in this regard, and you should not hesitate to use them.

    Be sure to not kill the two assassins that attack you and the Empress at the start of the game. If you kill them, this trophy will not be obtainable.

    Note that killing neutral creatures such as Rats, Hagfish and River Krusts do not count against you for this trophy, so if you need to kill any of those do not hesitate to do so.
    Enemy Dogs, however, DO COUNT. Be sure you do not kill any dogs during this playthrough. Killing one will negate this trophy but will not count towards your "Kills" stat at the end of a mission, so just be aware of that. Do not kill Dogs.

    When it comes time to eliminate a main target, you must do so by indirect means. These are pointed out to you in-game, but for a complete walkthrough of how to do these refer to the Poetic Justice trophy.

    After completing each mission and arriving at the pub, visit Piero and replenish your sleep dart ammo. Sleep darts allow you take non-lethally take out an enemy quickly and from a safe distance, which is invaluable.

    Make sure you save the game often. We cannot stress this enough. Dishonored allows you to save the game manually at any time, and then resume from that exact location should you need to. Use this to your advantage and save the game after clearing difficult section/completing a mission.

    When you are presented with the states screen at the close of a mission, make sure that it states you have not killed anybody. If you have, replay that mission right then.

    Once you have finished mission nine, without killing ANYONE, the trophy will unlock.

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Comments
  • When I started reading about this game I had a feeling this trophy would exist. I hope it's easier than it sounds... I'm looking forward to playing this game and hopefully plating it.
  • i guess there is options to buy powers that can KO the enemies or something like that
  • I think i found a way to do this, im thinking you just make people kill themselves, ike possessing in front of bullets and whatnot, technacly you wouldnt kill them.....
  • No thanks. I couldn't stand that about Deus Ex: They implement all these awesome weapons and killing mechanics, then tell you not to kill anyone. I'll pass on the Platinum this time around.
  • this is gonna rule! i love sneaking past enemies.
  • @3 Kills are counted even if they die indirectly. There are plenty of non-lethal options in the game.
  • @4 is there a trophy out there you won't bitch about? Anyways, I'm excited to try this game the non lethal way it will be a challenge yes but a rewarding one indeed!
  • @#4 I loved Deus Ex: Human Revolution. I wish there were more games like it. If this game is anything like Deus Ex: Human Revolution I'll have to buy it. @#7 Totally agree (not with the first part, I don't know him/her).
  • @4 I did not enjoy that about Deus Ex either. I'm hoping the campaign for Dishonored is shorter than Deus Ex though, because this game requires multiple playthroughs. Im guessing the stealth/non-lethal approach will take multiple restarts in tough sections. I kind of wish the non-lethal trophy were just for one section, not the entire game. Chomping on people with a rat horde just sounds crazy!
  • This will be a fun challenge that will probably require lots of strategic saves and reloading :P I do kind of wish that the trophy was for not directly killing anyone though, that would be a blast. You don't exist, all the enemies are just killing each other in fits of betrayal and insanity.
  • #6 - Do you know that for sure? Because you HAVE to kill the targets in each mission, that's the game. I seem to remember seeing a video where they would possess the target and jump off a ledge or something.
  • Well I'm wrong apparently. read a review and it says you can take a non-lethal approach for assassination targets. how does that make sense.
  • I got the Pacifist achievement in Deus Ex, but still managed to miss the platinum. Haven't played it again to try to get it. Is there a re-play mission option for this game?
  • Hopefully we will be able to have multiple saves before each mission and go back and do stealth and brutal at the same time. Sort of like Fallout was with the neutral/good/bad trophies.
  • @12 Once you play the game you'll find out. :) I finished it without killing anyone during my review so it's totally possible.
  • i am wonder if you can put enemies uncouncious rather than killing?propably trophy still pop up.
  • @16 u r probably right
  • Yes, you can knock enemies unconscious and will still be good for the trophy. Just need to ensure that all kills are at 0 during the mission overview screens (this includes not killing any of the key targets).
  • sneaking wasnt the bad part about deus ex. having dead bodies found and setting off alarms is the problem. we dont have to worry about that in this game
  • what if u have an enemy kill another enemy? is that killing or no?
  • @20... Yes, any deaths count as a kill.
  • Ok, this trophy just became a pain in the ass. Apparently, I somehow killed someone in mission 7, at the results screen, selected replay mission immediately and still did not unlock upon game completion. Therefore, if the results screen for any mission says you had a kill, looks like you are going to have to start the entire game over again. Also did not unlock ghost trophy.
  • This game looks like it has a lot of reply due to the needing to make people kill themselves or kill no one cannot wait to buy it
  • Can anyone here confirm if you do the second side-quest for Granny Rags that it invalidates this trophy? I know, from G-Staff, there are two things that can mess up this trophy. I'm getting conflicting information about whether the second side-quest for her screws things up. Thank you.
  • @21 thanks so much i accidentally killed someone i snuck up behind them and pressed the wrong damn button i meant to hold in R1 or R2 or whatever it is to choke them out but NOPE I PRESSED THE OPPOSITE BUTTON AND SLIT THEIR THROAT AND I WAS ON MISSION 7 I WAS SO MAD ohh well i'll go for the high chaos ending trophy then reply the game and get ghost @23 your right, this game is one of those replay this and replay that games but its a great game in my opinion so i truely dont mind replaying this game 3-5 times or whatever it'll take cause this game ROCKS
  • Do the assassins at the beginning when your with the empress count toward the KC?
  • @26 Yes, they do. You are given the non-lethal option to only defend, and you should take it.
  • For this trophy no one can die in any way, including the prologue. But honestly i shot the assassins in the prologue and they didn't die, so you may not even be able to kill them because they disappear. As for Granny Rags don't even do her optional side quest if you can going for this trophy, you don't need to and you can skip the Granny Rags segment in mission 7 Flooded District (or whatever) entirely (or at least I was able to). Then a couple short quick missions and the trophy is yours. By the way it all has to be done in one play though without any mission replays from the title screen. Replay mission (square at mission stats) after finishing said mission is fine. Good Luck.
  • there is just way too many guards in later levels to get this trophy. I did the Overseer level and made sure if there were any accidents and someone died I'd reload it. Get to the end - 1 death! really. choke on his tongue while unconscious did he! and this is the 1st main level! Nah - I like a challenge but I also like my TV and ps3 controller!
  • Can you complete the game by simply knocking the key targets out, or do you have to kill them indirectly?
  • Yes , you have to kill them indirectly
  • Just did this along with the don't alert anyone and using no enhancements other than level 1 blink on the same play through and I have to say it was soooo much more fun than when I played it the first time around. Like other said, I recommend not doing any side quest and going directly for what needs to be done by indirect means. For example not doing the Granny Rags quest or saving sokolov and piero. Also, getting the strong arm bone charm that makes your choking faster is a major help. I think you can get it on the way to the golden cat. There are some weepers in an alley way below everything, and there is a doorway that leads to granny rags which has the bone charm in the same room as her. The hardest time I had was getting through all the assassins to Daud. That was horrible....
  • #24 Yes avoid doing that side quest. As a matter of fact avoid doing all the side quests. JvK B)
  • when killing the pendleton twins, does that count towards the trophy? i sleep darted them and it didnt do anything to advance in the mission
  • This trophy was really fun to get and surprisingly easy as well
  • Holy shit has anyone else had this trophy glitch? I even went through my mission stats and it says 0 on everything! Please tell me I don't have to play the entire thing again!
  • @ #36. You probably killed the weepers in the sewer at the Hound Pits Pub at the beginning of mission 3. Since nothing at the Hounds Pit Pub is reported on mission stats, you wouldn't know about it. Happened to me and it sucks, if you want this trophy you have to restart at mission 2 and redo all missions after that one.
  • Would just like to add that after contacting Bethesda, they informed me that certain criteria can affect the obtaining of this trophy. "Please note, in order to unlock the trophy Clean Hands, there are some requirements that needs to be met: o The Weepers present in the sewers beneath the Hound Pits Pub (second visit to the Hound’s Pit Pub) just before The Golden Cat mission will count against this trophy. o In order to obtain this trophy, you must not fully alert either Weeper, and must not kill them. o If Granny Rags is Sleep Darted after destroying the Cameo in the Flooded District Mission, this will also count as a kill and will prevent you from getting the ‘Clean Hands’ Achievement/Trophy."
  • Good idea, poor execution. Frustrating trophy.
  • I just froze time stole Granny's key then hauled up the stairs. You will hear a surprise tone but ignore it and press on. Received the trophy finally after that. I failed to get it at the end the first time, luckily I had a save point right before Granny and finished from there.
  • If you never do a single Granny Rags/Slackjaw side mission, you will not encounter them at all in the sewer. The door will simply be unlocked. However, if you do have to side with Slackjaw or Granny, just freeze time, grab her keys, and bail. It's the ONLY way to do it. You can replay the game from that chapter if you'd like.
  • So, I restarted the game going for this trophy and it says I killed someone even though I never did! I'm wondering, perhaps it was an unconscious guy I set down who hit his head too hard. It said he was still unconscious but that is the only thing I can think of. Do people die if they hit their heads on the wall or something and blood comes out? It never says they died.... Anyone have any info on this?
  • #42 - If you knock someone unconscious, they can still die if you just leave them. One of the biggest threats to this is that a swarm of rats will just come along and eat them. I always made it a point to place unconscious people up on top of things. Plus, you get the added bonus of making it less likely that someone will discover the body. As for dropping them too hard, that can definitely happen too, but you have to drop them decently far. For some reason Corvo doesn't understand the concept of gently setting something down and tends to toss people around even when you use "drop" rather than "throw", but they seem to be pretty resilient as long as you don't drop them more than a couple of feet. Just make sure that you double check for the unconscious indicator after you stash each body.
  • @5 With other words, you like doing nothing...
  • does anyone know if placing guards on top of each other kills them cause they seem to start disappearing if i do that
  • First time going through the game. Im a huge fan of the MGS series, and decided to give this trophy a try. Got to the third level before reading the guide. Guess what? I killed the two assassins in the Prologue. Well, shit. On a side note, how is this acomplished? Comment 28 suggests they "just die". Youre only non-lethal option is to defend. How can you stop the assassins without killing them?
  • @46 just keep blocking. The empress will act as if you just killed them after a while.
  • AHHH... I got to level 4 and only just read the rules that you CAN'T kill assassins at the start, which i did.. ooops. Oh well..
  • When I do non-lethal takedowns and place the bodies above ground, they sometimes disappear, is this a glitch? They also disappear when I'm standing right next to them with my back turned to them for like four seconds.
  • Bloody hell, what a boring ending compared to high chaos. Took probably five minutes to complete too, disappointing short!
  • Well, guess I have to restart if those two assassins at the beginning count against me. -_-
  • Playlist of my low chaos walkthrough guides https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1kdPdVXIVNHT5AIWYo3rZBDAelt_SP9B Using these walkthroughs will unlock multiple Achievements: Clean Hands Ghost Poetic Justice Shadow Mostly Flesh and Steel Specter Faceless Surgical Just Dark Enough Vanished Well Mannered
  • "Be sure to not kill the two assassins that attack you and the Empress at the start of the game. If you kill them, this trophy will not be obtainable." Oh my fucking god. I just read this, and am pretty pissed I have to go through all the opening cinema's, 1st mission, and first Loyalist part again, but it could have been worse. Not sure I killed an assassin at the beginning, but can't take the chance. Thanks.
  • this becomes unreasonably hard sometimes. 2nd Dishonored in regard of silent-no-kill-not-seen playthrough is way better and funnier.

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