Astalder Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 This was my first introduction to Castlevania (at least I can't remember having played it as a child) and I have to say I loved it. I haven't been able to stomach Kratos long enough to finish God of War 1 yet so I can't speak to possible similarities, but this game offered me a character I could really enjoy powering up and playing. Killing Satan at the end and turning into Dracula... didn't see either of those coming though I probably would have if I thought about what I've heard about Castlevania over the years. As far as the meaning of the ending... were there one or two masks? I thought I saw Marie take the God mask into the heavens with her, and am wondering if that was a separate mask (Satan's?) left behind. If that was the God mask, then I like the theory that Gabriel put it on, leaving his dark shadow behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS289 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) why was granted immortality? And thanks to the mask or it was a gift from God? Is live kept alive in such a way as to re-conquer Satan? P.S. kids how to put spoiler in the comments? Edited January 9, 2011 by PS289 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyoRML007 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 And the timeline of the game (early 1000) and Dracula (from the other games) is said to be born as Mathias Cronquist (sounds awfully swedish, yeah I'm swedish, anyway..) and Cronquist was born 1062 ! (Lamen of Innocence) u have good points, but you have little mistake, this game us a rebot, so, you can forget about lament of innocence and all other canon. this game is like returning to square one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 As far as the meaning of the ending... were there one or two masks? I thought I saw Marie take the God mask into the heavens with her, and am wondering if that was a separate mask (Satan's?) left behind. If that was the God mask, then I like the theory that Gabriel put it on, leaving his dark shadow behind. The mask left behind is the one Zobek was using to controll Gabriel, its, aparently, and evil version of the God maks or something liek that. Marie does take the God mask awhay with her, wich is why I think Gabriel didnt become a Lord of Shadow himself but rather got turned into a vampire and fell into the dark side due to guilt. @HanzoTheRazor - man theres a button there called edit, if you decide to say something you hadnt yet and there are no new posts you can use it, no need to make a quadruple post seriously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOLANTON Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 2 questions.. 1) How Gabriel became Dracula? 2) Is there going to be a sequel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razak_83 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Actually when gabriel holds satan by the neck in the very final fight, you can see is spirit ascend and some evil wings growing on his back. At this point he left his dark side on earth and ascended his good side like the founders off the brotherhood off light. Even the vampire carmila tells him that he will become on of them in their conversation. That does not mean that he is not going to be bitten by laura and transforme into dracula, it means that gabriel maybe was the first bellmont and he left a curse. See that he appears has dracula in the future, and this can mean that the very dracula that the bellmont have been fighting is gabriel all the time . zoebek could not be dead because he is dead itself, thats why he offers the end off imortality to dracula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUGAABOO Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 2 questions.. 1) How Gabriel became Dracula? 2) Is there going to be a sequel? 1) There is no proof that he became Dracula. But I think he became Dracul (the father of Dracula). 2) Konami rebooted (the whole) over 20 year long Castlevania franchise and left us with the biggest cliffhanger yet, if they don't make a sequel they'll be the biggest trolls ever existed. - Yes, there will be a sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIVEE Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The game blew my mind, but the ending was kind of disappointing... It's like everything he did was for nothing. Seriously... It felt like the writters wanted to do something fantastic, instead, they should have kept the consistency of the game story to the very end. A man going crazy because he lost his love? Fine. Zobek being loyal to a friend even he going nuts? Fine. (how the hell Zobek survived anyway?!?, how Gabriel became Dracul?!?, was Marie lying to Gabriel from the very begining?!?, if Zobek was a traitor from the start, why no hint was given?!?) So many things out of the blue... I usually don't criticize a game's plot like this, but this game was perfect until chapter XI. The last chapter should have been re-rewritten (since I'm almost sure they changed the story at the end). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelouch_Shinkiro Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 That ending was weird, very different from the other Castlevania endings... Kinda disappointing, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orobourous Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Marie didn't tell Gabriel because she knew he needed to go through the quest unburdened. If Marie couldn't ascend due to God being "missing" due to Zobek's spell then maybe Zobek couldn't descend due to Gabriel beating Satan. This could also explain Dracul; If we assume that the "devil mask " is the polar opposite of the "god mask" then if Gabriel put it on then his soul would split into good and bad just like the LoS. Now the good mask transcended the good and left the bad so it is plausible that the bad mask transcended the bad and left the good, only the bad couldn't transcend due to Gabriel beating Satan. Therefore there could have been two Gabriels walking around, one good and one as Dracul, which could also mean that the Belmont line could continue through the good side of him... I think we should just wait for the DLC though, will probably explain a lot. Still, best ending ever and I really want to play as Dracul Gabriel, think it would be sick, but only if he kept the Seraph Wings and they turned more bat like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onizuka20 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 epic game, still love it!!! hmm about the end kinda disapointing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseLiquid Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 The game blew my mind, but the ending was kind of disappointing... It's like everything he did was for nothing. Seriously... It felt like the writters wanted to do something fantastic, instead, they should have kept the consistency of the game story to the very end. A man going crazy because he lost his love? Fine. Zobek being loyal to a friend even he going nuts? Fine. (how the hell Zobek survived anyway?!?, how Gabriel became Dracul?!?, was Marie lying to Gabriel from the very begining?!?, if Zobek was a traitor from the start, why no hint was given?!?) So many things out of the blue... I usually don't criticize a game's plot like this, but this game was perfect until chapter XI. The last chapter should have been re-rewritten (since I'm almost sure they changed the story at the end). There may not have been a hint about Zobek, but from listening to the narrative before each level I started to think to myself that as the story progressed, Zobek's commentary became darker. I figured that he was the last LoS before I got to the end. The ending was crazy. It was weird seeing Gabriel as Dracula and then when he jumped out of the window into a modern-day environment.. I just said "What?" out loud. I guess they have roped me into DLC and any sequel released! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 In the new trailer of Reverie you hear the vampire child saying "A powerful demon is coming, we are the only ones with power enough to stop him. You must become a creature like me.... I'm sorry, you have no choice...." That explains how Gabriel becomes a vampire =P... I want to play Reverie T_T... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppetShoJustice Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 1) There is no proof that he became Dracula. But I think he became Dracul (the father of Dracula). Except, you know, the official artwork you unlock that calls him Dracula by name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kariokebeach Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) Congratulations to those who guessed Laura would turn Gabriel. Now as that has come to pass what are everyones thoughts about what/who the forgotten one is?? Edited March 29, 2011 by Kariokebeach Removed the quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmerson Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 There was no real clue that I could gather about the forgotten one. Something tells me that the forgotten one isnt something familiar that we will recognize, but just be some new being that we've never seen before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purifico Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 1) There is no proof that he became Dracula. But I think he became Dracul (the father of Dracula). 2) Konami rebooted (the whole) over 20 year long Castlevania franchise and left us with the biggest cliffhanger yet, if they don't make a sequel they'll be the biggest trolls ever existed. - Yes, there will be a sequel. It's funny that you say that, because Hideo Kojima was involved in making of Lords of Shadow and he IS the biggest troll in gaming industry, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 There was no real clue that I could gather about the forgotten one. Something tells me that the forgotten one isnt something familiar that we will recognize, but just be some new being that we've never seen before. I'm pretty sure the forgotten one was in another castlevania game. On another note, I noticed something in the ending. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK-AMLgn_QQ]YouTube - Castlevania Lords of Shadow Ending Dracula 1080P (True Ending)[/ame] At 6:34, to the right of Zobek is an old lady which looks shockingly similar to Baba Yaga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimFear Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) I've got a spoilerific question about the ending : [spoiler=123]At the end Zobek got killed by satan, why he's still alive at the verry end? he was already a vampire or something? Edited July 15, 2011 by JimFear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On3ManCr3w Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) [spoiler=975]Zobek wasn't a vampire, he was the Lord of the Dead or Lord of the Necromancers. No one knows why or how he's still alive in the Epilogue. The DLCs did not explain that epilogue scene. Edited July 15, 2011 by On3ManCr3w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kariokebeach Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 You guys do not need to use spoiler tags in this thread. Besides, they may flesh that and many other things in the sequal. There are a few things the DLC promised but fell short of that. Maybe the game sold well enought that they made a snap decision and left certain aspects out of the DLC and will put them in the sequal. Just Sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseLiquid Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 So, what exactly played out in the DLC? I won't be buying the DLC, but I am curious if anything story wise was told in either of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kariokebeach Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 So, what exactly played out in the DLC? I won't be buying the DLC, but I am curious if anything story wise was told in either of the two. He drank Lara's blood so he could fight the Forgotten One which I hear is like a Final Fantasy optional boss, very tough(I havn't gotten that one yet but watched videos). It only anwers how he became a vampire. Thats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseLiquid Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I see. So basically, we have to wait until the next game is released. As long as it as good as this one I won't mind that. It will be at least a couple more games before this series gets watered down and unplayable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echelon XII Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 When Gabriel destroys the Forgotten One, he absorbs the daemon's power and abolishes the daemon as if he were nothing. Thus was born Gabriel as a vampire and how his powers culminated. Also, in the monologue of the final level he refers to himself as the dragon that will bring down the Forgotten One. Dracul means dragon (typically in title as one who perfoms grand, outlandish feats). Dracul means 'dragon' or as a title, Dracula means 'of the dragon' or as a name. For example: Dracul Grabriel Belmont/Belmont Dracul Dracula Belmont/Belmont Dracula But this is probably too technical for the game. My main question was has he split apart like the other Lords of Shadow, or has he just diminished to the point of the skiddish phantom he is now? This story can continue in so many awesome ways, and this game is incredibly amazing in what it delivered via main disc and DLC. The Forgotten One is not like a Final Fantasy optional boss, those were much more difficult. The Forgotten One is too... redundant and repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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