TLOUII Review Thread

[Ashbo]

I’d say it’s been well received!

 

IGN - 10/10

 

GameSpot - 8/10

 

Game Informer - 10/10

 

Next Gen Base - 10/10

 

Spiel Times - 9/10

 

Press Start Australia - 9.5/10

 

Telegraph - 5/5

 

Push Start - 10/10

 

Easy Allies - 9.5/10

 

VG 24/7 - 10/10

 

Playstation LifeStyle - 10/10

 

IGN Japan - 7/10

 

Destructoid - 8/10

 

WccfTech - 9.5/10

 

GamesRadar+ - 5/5

 

The Guardian - 5/5

 

Game Revolution - 7/10

 

GamingBible - 7/10

Edited June 12, 2020 by Ashbo

[The Alchemist]

Metacritic - 96 - Must Play Tag

 

OpenCritic - 96 - Mighty Tag

 

I can already taste the tears of the perpetually offended. "But.. but.. NaUgHtY dOg PaId ThEm OfF hurr durr".

 

Don't worry boys, I'll enjoy it for both of us

 

How glorious it must be for ND after the weeks and weeks of bullshit and false accusations they've had to face, to have their work vindicated so emphatically.

[Sellers]

Metacritic - 96 - Must Play Tag

 

OpenCritic - 96 - Mighty Tag

 

I can already taste the tears of the perpetually offended. "But.. but.. NaUgHtY dOg PaId ThEm OfF hurr durr".

 

Don't worry boys, I'll enjoy it for both of us

 

How glorious it must be for ND after the weeks and weeks of bullshit and false accusations they've had to face, to have their work vindicated so emphatically.

 

Yeah so much this, egg on the face of the haters well and truly

[MickeyMix]

I'll enjoy the game regardless more than likely, IGN score the English/American IGN anyway, take with a pinch of salt. Don't need to tell anyone they're very, umm.. Hit or miss.

[staytrue1985]

You need to change the title of this thread. It's TLOU, not LOU. It's very jarring!

[Cold Fusion]

just wait for the "user" score, it'll be an entirely different picture. Skill Up (youtube) didn't like the game, and I'm sure there'll be others.

 

but enjoy your game, nobody is stopping you from enjoying it.

[Sellers]

just wait for the "user" score, it'll be an entirely different picture. Skill Up (youtube) didn't like the game, and I'm sure there'll be others.

 

but enjoy your game, nobody is stopping you from enjoying it.

 

User scores from many games often get review bombed, just look at the mass amount of dislikes on reviews videos, especially those with positive scores, so it won't paint an accurate picture.

Edited June 12, 2020 by Sellers

[iLion]

That's a stellar set of scores with only a few dropping to averagish numbers. Hope all you guys enjoy it!

[rotoninja]

User scores from many games often get review bombed, just look at the mass amount of dislikes on reviews videos, especially those with positive scores, so it won't paint an accurate picture.

 

Although this may be true, the opposite of review bombing is review inflating...along with fanboyism. You can't have one without the other. So, even before the review bombing comes in, the overly positive review can be questioned as well. I would even go far to say, mainstream reviewers are about as casual as can be compared to reviewers about a decade ago; it doesn't take much to make them elated or irritated in my opinion.

Edited June 12, 2020 by rotoninja

[Situation]

I expected the gameplay to be 10/10 but most of the reviews don’t seem to be honest about the odd choices in the story, considering how wonderful the first was. IGN Japan being 7/10 and IGN us being 10/10 sticks out as odd. I wasn’t intending to pick it up until PS5 regardless but eager to see how the user reviews stack up.

[Blaze Naruto Shippuden]

No one leaked the trophy list when reviewers already know the achievements?

[Gage]

No one leaked the trophy list when reviewers already know the achievements?

 

No because if reviewers break NDA they get blacklisted and never get codes again, and leaking the list would be breaking NDA.

[Blaze Naruto Shippuden]

No because if reviewers break NDA they get blacklisted and never get codes again, and leaking the list would be breaking NDA.

 

I see.

 

 

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[Radford999]

I trust this sites reviews. Most review scores are pretty damn accurate. So if they rated it 95/100, that must mean it is an absolute masterpiece. Only 2 games on this site have a higher review score. Persona and GTA V.

[mcolwander90]

Bout what I expected (I was thinking 93-96 range on Metacritic). When I noticed there was outrage over the leaks, I went into full avoidance mode until these reviews came out. I always just assumed the outrage was the anti-SJW crowd being their typical anti-SJW selves. Judging by the IGN comments, at least, that assumptions seems to be right. I was going to get the game regardless (though I have to wait a few days because it's getting mailed ), but I admit I was a little worried that maybe it was more than that. It still could be because as much as I love ND, I don't always agree with their plot/writing/character decisions. But I trust them enough to give it a proper chance! I'm very excited!

 

A lot of goal post moving now: "It'll be like TLJ, just you wait! High reviews at first, but after a week everyone will hate it!", "They were paid off!", *insert other deep conspiracy theories here*, "See look at this one review that completely justifies my opinion! The 90 other ones are invalid!", "the user reviews will tell the full story!", etc.

 

 

User scores from many games often get review bombed, just look at the mass amount of dislikes on reviews videos, especially those with positive scores, so it won't paint an accurate picture.

 

This. I will always value critic reviews over user reviews. Because at least I know critics actually played the game, and for reasonable length of time. Specifically, they actually played it in full. User reviews are always so kneejerk, agenda driven, and exaggerated. This goes on both side, as rotoninja said. They almost rarely hold any meaningful water, and I feel user review scores shouldn't be a thing at this stage. If people are desperate to share their thoughts, force them to actually write it out in a hundred or so words instead of simply, "This game sucks! SJW propaganda! Sad! MAGA!", which I'm sure will flood this game's user reviews.

 

I'll always remember the Zelda vs Horizon review bomb war. It was really sad as both games were legendary.

Edited June 12, 2020 by mcolwander90

[Gage]

Kotaku and Polygon unscored reviews have good points on the depiction on violence in the game in contrast with the actual message that is supposed to be being conveyed.

 

Issue with reviews currently is that what is allowed to be talked about or shown right now is very strict. Gameplay/story can only be shown/talked about for the first 5 hours, so I expect there will be more articles going up at NZ launch with deeper discussion on issues people have with the writing. I feel a lot of that is going to be lost or overlooked though by people either being ignorant or people not really wanting to look at it past face value.

 

I really love the gameplay itself, and I'll be very interested to give Grounded a go when/if it is added.

Edited June 12, 2020 by Gage

[Byrney]

Although this may be true, the opposite of review bombing is review inflating...along with fanboyism. You can't have one without the other. So, even before the review bombing comes in, the overly positive review can be questioned as well. I would even go far to say, mainstream reviewers are about as casual as can be compared to reviewers about a decade ago; it doesn't take much to make them elated or irritated in my opinion.

 

Agreed, I think we'll have a clearer idea on how the game will be generally received once the critics who don't receive review copies from Sony have played the game, fingers crossed the game is rated highly by them as well.

[Cold Fusion]

Bout what I expected (I was thinking 93-96 range on Metacritic). When I noticed there was outrage over the leaks, I went into full avoidance mode until these reviews came out. I always just assumed the outrage was the anti-SJW crowd being their typical anti-SJW selves. Judging by the IGN comments, at least, that assumptions seems to be right. I was going to get the game regardless (though I have to wait a few days because it's getting mailed ), but I admit I was a little worried that maybe it was more than that. It still could be because as much as I love ND, I don't always agree with their plot/writing/character decisions. But I trust them enough to give it a proper chance! I'm very excited!

 

A lot of goal post moving now: "It'll be like TLJ, just you wait! High reviews at first, but after a week everyone will hate it!", "They were paid off!", *insert other deep conspiracy theories here*, "See look at this one review that completely justifies my opinion! The 90 other ones are invalid!", "the user reviews will tell the full story!", etc.

 

 

 

 

This. I will always value critic reviews over user reviews. Because at least I know critics actually played the game, and for reasonable length of time. Specifically, they actually played it in full. User reviews are always so kneejerk, agenda driven, and exaggerated. This goes on both side, as rotoninja said. They almost rarely hold any meaningful water, and I feel user review scores shouldn't be a thing at this stage. If people are desperate to share their thoughts, force them to actually write it out in a hundred or so words instead of simply, "This game sucks! SJW propaganda! Sad! MAGA!", which I'm sure will flood this game's user reviews.

 

I'll always remember the Zelda vs Horizon review bomb war. It was really sad as both games were legendary.

 

 

So, if, what I’m reading here is correct, any and all reviews of this game that are negative, will be from anti-sjw people? So, ism-ist people so to speak.... but what about people who have problems with the very concept of the story, or gameplay, or length, or pacing, or dialogue? What about people who just simply say “nope, not for me”? What you are saying is pretty much fanboy stuff, and simply brushing aside any and all comments on certain aspects of the game, just seems equally as shallow as the people you are dismissing in your very statement.

[mjfan97]

I can't wait to see what AngryJoe and Chris Stuckmann have to say about this game. Those two guys are my go-to for reviews. I don't trust official game publications: after all, IGN once rated a game lower because it "had too much water." And they often make statements that make no sense as game criticism, while giving the annual COD release a 9/10.

 

I think public reviews will probably be the opposite. I liked the first game at first, but it always annoyed me how the fanboys kept constantly referring to zombies as "mutants" or "creepers" or whatever. It's the undead trying to eat people to assimilate them and make them like them. It's zombies. It doesn't matter if it's caused by a fungi, that's literally the definition of what a zombie is, and saying anything else is pretentious.

 

I won't say my curiosity's piqued, but at the very least I'll give it its fair dues and backtrack if it happens to be good. But first it needs to pass the ultimate test: that of public approval since the critics' mean virtually nothing these days; none of them are reputable imo.

[Sellers]

It's pretty obvious the type that'll be review bombing or continuing to hate even more on the game after these reviews and after it comes one of the highest selling PS4 exclusives, but I'll leave it there

[mcolwander90]

So, if, what I’m reading here is correct, any and all reviews of this game that are negative, will be from anti-sjw people? So, ism-ist people so to speak.... but what about people who have problems with the very concept of the story, or gameplay, or length, or pacing, or dialogue? What about people who just simply say “nope, not for me”? What you are saying is pretty much fanboy stuff, and simply brushing aside any and all comments on certain aspects of the game, just seems equally as shallow as the people you are dismissing in your very statement.

 

I don't think I said any and all. I suppose I did say "User reviews are always so kneejerk, agenda driven, and exaggerated. This goes on both side[sic], as rotoninja said." Saying "always" was definitely a mistake on my part as there are honest user reviews on both ends of the spectrum. But a large majority of them serve a purpose beyond the game itself, mostly from people who barely touch the game and are riding a wave one direction or the other. It just so happens the anti-SJW crowd seems to be among the loudest, and most determined to bring a game down.

 

These days, it's usually either politics or micros/scrummy money practices that result in review bombs and controversies. RIP the user score of anyone who hits both (see: MK11, which is actually a good game haha). You still get console war hold-outs, people who will give a negative review of anything critically acclaimed, and naturally fanboys on both sides. But those two seem to lead the way, and this game seems to only hit one of those two. I'm guessing an extremely high percentage of the negative, or even average, reviews will be about opposing the politics and agendas of the game. I am very curious, however, to see how many reviews mention the stories of ND overworking employees and whatnot as I do think it's is a subject that should be talked about more.

 

That was the point I was trying to make about user reviews. They're a mess, and a high percentage barely qualify as reviews. The honest ones get drowned out from both sides. I'd like to see a user review format that better brings out those honest reviews, while greatly decreasing the amount of bombers/elevators. I just find it very tough to find any meaningful value in user reviews, at least those that allow people who don't buy/play the games to review. I hope that clears things up a little! haha.

[Dinos]

So the game is receiving high praise calling it 'the game of the decade', that's a bit far-fetched but okay.

 

I personally haven't read/watched any of the reviews floating the internet because the only review/opinion that matters, is mine. I trusted the reviews for Days Gone and decided to not pick it up during its launch and I regret that choice.

 

I've read all the leaks and I am absolutely devastated with the story that Naughty Dog has decided to write for the sequel but I'll be damned the game looks absolutely beautiful!

[The Alchemist]

So the game is receiving high praise calling it 'the game of the decade', that's a bit far-fetched but okay.

 

How so? Like, I'm genuinely curious. None of us have played the game yet. The reviewers have, and they've given their honest assessments. The general consensus is that the game is a masterpiece and one of the games of the generation. Hardly out of the ordinary considering Naughty Dog's track record.

[Dinos]

How so? Like, I'm genuinely curious. None of us have played the game yet. The reviewers have, and they've given their honest assessments. The general consensus is that the game is a masterpiece and one of the games of the generation. Hardly out of the ordinary considering Naughty Dog's track record.

 

Simply because we're talking about 10 years worth of games. It's fine if you like a game and all but I doubt it's the game of the decade.

 

I've played TLOU after my brain was mushed about being the BEST-GAME-EVER and to be honest, it's okay. Like I saw nothing new and by the looks of it, the sequel looks the same.

[The Alchemist]

Simply because we're talking about 10 years worth of games. It's fine if you like a game and all but I doubt it's the game of the decade.

 

I've played TLOU after my brain was mushed about being the BEST-GAME-EVER and to be honest, it's okay. Like I saw nothing new and by the looks of it, the sequel looks the same.

 

A decade isn't really that long in gaming, and there are always a handful of titles from each generation that stand head and shoulders above the rest. Why is it far fetched that this might be one of those games? As much as I've loved the current generation of games, there's still only about 5 or 6 games I'd say come anywhere close to being a masterpiece and true game of the generation contenders. There really isn't as much competition in that regard as some people might think.

 

But you know what? Good on you. At least you've articulated your reasons. TLOU, like any game, isn't going to be for everyone and that's fine.