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I made a separate thread for verifying known deductions. I noticed two sets of deductions that seem to need an additional clue before completing the deduction but there never is a clue that goes with them. Nor are you able to make these deductions outside specific maps (that's unusual for deductions that are not required to move the plot forward). I'm listed the deductions remember from my first playthrough and reviewing footage from my let's play where I made an effort to examine everything. If anyone notices any deductions and their clues missing from this list, please let me know.

 

When I have time, I'm also going to replay the game for a third time seeing if only looking at the bare minimum, having bare minimum conversations and staying silent for most of the dialogue will lead to different clues and deductions. It also gives me the chance to see if starting a new game using old data will have the sports cards reroll where they'll spawn and find my last one.

 

List of Deductions:

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  • Yale's locker is full of surprises + Someone threw a chest expander in the trash = The chest expander in the trash belongs to Yale (New Clue)
  • The Buffalo that works for O'Leary wears a shamrock on his lapel + Jake got mad when he found me searching his locker = Jake won’t say he works for O’Leary (Note Entry, dialogue)
  • There's a smudged racial slur painted on Yale's locker + There's a stained towel in Arthur Tucker's locker = Arthur Tucker painted the racial slur on Yale’s locker (dialogue)
  • Mary calls Dunn "Joey" + Mary has nice and neat handwriting + Dunn's wife's wedding ring was in an envelope with Sonia's name handwritten on it = Mary and Dunn were seeing each other (New Clue)
  • Mary and Dunn were seeing each other + Dunn's wife's birthdate doesn't open the safe = Mary's birth date, that might open the safe, on a card on Dunn’s desk (new clue)
  • Mary's birth date might open the safe + There are cards with staff information on Dunn's table = Mary's birth date, that might open the safe, on a card on Dunn's desk (New Clue)
  • There's something fishy about about Dunn's suicide + Dunn's weight: 163 lbs - Height: 5'5" = Dunn wasn't tall enough to hang himself from that noose (New Clue)
  • Dunn had 4 different neck marks + The chest expander in the trash belongs to Yale + Dunn wasn't tall enough to hang himself from that noose = Dunn was strangled with Yale's chest expander (New Clue)
  • Someone threw a paint can in the trash + When Dunn died, his knuckles were swollen = Dunn must have punched a paint can (New Clue)
  • Dunn wanted to call off the fight + Dunn was strangled with Yale's chest expander = Did Yale kill Dunn just because he wanted to call off the fight? (Observation)
  • Mary has a cold + There's a scarf at Yale's place + Mary went to Luna Park with Yale = Mary's been at Yale's place recently (New Clue)
  • Yale's shoes smell like a dead man + Who do the footprints at the gym belong to? = Yale's soles don't match the footprints at the gym (new clue)
  • The doe nurse will be gone later for trauma surgery + Doctor Talbot has surgery today at 12:30 = The doe nurse will assisting Doctor Talbot during his 12:30 surgery
  • Doctor Palmer suggests that Yale rest after his heart attack + Yale's medical report is signed by one Doctor Ferguson + Yale had "extrasystole and dehydration caused by panic attack" = Who’s the guy passing as Yale’s doctor? (new clue)
  • Avenarius vanished after winning a fight, back when Yale was a kid + Yale is one of O’Leary’s “untouchables” according to his files + O’Leary has a guilty conscience for ratting someone out when he was 14, someone who ended up dead + ??? = ???
  • O'Leary claims to love his family unconditionally + Weekly took very explicit photographs of the Rhino and his lover = O'Leary's wife is having an affair with Colbert (new Clue)
  • O’Leary’s feet on the table, a sign of dominance + Who do the footprints at the gym belong to? = O’Leary sole don’t match the footprints at the gym (new clue)
  • O'Leary keeps romantic pictures of Helen Moore in a drawer + Helen Moore carries a cigarette case bearing a romantic inscription = Helen Moore and Desmond O'Leary are still in love (new Clue)
  • Helen Moore says she hates O'Leary + Helen Moore and Desmond O'Leary are still in love = If she’s still in love, why does she claim she hates him? What is she hiding? (observation)
  • At Dunn's place, there's a picture of a tree painted by his wife + Dunn hid the music box under the swing tire tree = Maybe Dunn used the same hiding place once more. (observation)
  • A paper tissue that smells like sardines in the gym office + An empty can of sardines at Dunn's place, open recently = The smelly gym burglar didn't find what he was looking for at Dunn's place (new clue)
  • A piece of jean fabric on the stairs that lead to the gym rooftop + The Anteater has a tear in his pants = Matching Fabrics (observation, note entry)
  • The smelly gym burglar didn't find what he was looking for at Dunn's place + The Anteater's snout reeks of sardines = The anteater broke into the gym and Dunn’s place (new clue)
  • Who do the footprints at the gym belong to? + The gym burglar signed a document with his foot + The Anteater wears relatively small shoes = Matching footprints (observation, note entry) I saw footprints from those very same shoes next to both the gym murders
  • Two thugs tried to scare me into leaving the case, but one of them was trigger happy + The anteater broke into the gym and Dunn's place = Long snout (observation, note entry) One of the thugs that attacked me the other night had a snout just like that
  • The biography of Harry Bradwick, father of baseball, at Dunn's apartment + Craig Spannow was an orphan who thought baseball was his only family + Before Dunn found him, Spannow was living with his father = Spannow lives in Green-wood (observation, note entry)
  • During the war, dunn and his pals were known as the “Olympic Five” + Who’s the guy passing for Yale’s Doctor? = Mitchell, one of the Olympic five, tried to pass off as Yale’s doctor (New Clue)
  • Spannow blames everything on the "Surgeon", an old friend in common with Dunn + Mitchell, one of the Olympic five, tried to pass off as Yale’s doctor = Mitchell, “The Surgeon”, could be the persona behind the entire case (new clue)
  • Someone ordered Randal Leigh to commit those murders + O'Leary would personally kills anyone who threatens his family or business = O’Leary has nothing to do with Dunn’s death (new clue)
  • Dunn's murderer had it all carefully planned out + Cassidy acts recklessly, by impulse = Cassidy is too impulsive to plan something as twisted as Dunn’s murder (new clue)
  • The horse who works for Mitchell wears an arrowhead around his neck + There's an attic full of Indian objects in the port warehouse = The woman in the picture under the totem pole is Gill’s Mother (New Clue, Dialogue)
  • A list of names that somehow relate to rare chemical compounds + There's pill bottles with athlete's names in the lab + Spannow enhanced his performance by using drugs = Mitchell sells athletes drugs to enhance their performance (new clue)
  • Mitchell sells athletes drugs to enhance their performance + Spannow's health took a toll after using the drugs = Grune’s Drugs have unwanted side effects on athletes (new clue)
  • Gil works for Mitchell, even though he hates his guts + The cops found Gil close to the basement door + Mitchell was trapped in the basement = Maybe Gill blocked the basement door to kill Mitchell (new clue)
  • The warehouse guard is trigger happy + A sniper killed Randal Leigh + Gill had to kill a friend in order for the mission to succeed + Gil works for Mitchell, even though he hates his guts = Perhaps Mitchell ordered Gill to kill Randal Leigh (new clue)
  • A sniper killed Randal Leigh + Mitchell missed two shots point blank = Mitchell didn’t kill Randal Leigh personally (new clue)
  • Mitchell's drugs help overcome physical limitations + There was a bottle with Spannow's name on it in the ventilation shaft + Spannow stopped a fan with his bad arm + Spannow died shortly after recovering his strength = Mitchell’s drugs killed Spannow (new clue)
  • A list of names that somehow relate to rare chemical compounds + Thorpe hires athletes for advertising campaigns = What if Tim Thorpe was involved in Mitchell's operation? (New clue)
  • What if Tim Thorpe was involved in Mitchell's operation? + All of Thorpe's appointments are in his agenda = Maybe there’s a meeting with Mitchell in the agenda (new clue)
  • Spannow blames everything on the "Surgeon", an old friend common with Dunn + They called Thorpe the "Surgeon" for his excellent aim as a sniper + What if Tim Thorpe was involved in Mitchell's operation? = Thorpe is the mastermind behind the athlete doping operation (new clue)
  • Gill says someone knocked him unconscious and left him right by the basement entrence + What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? + The cops found gill close to the basement door + ??? = ???
  • Mitchell's drugs help overcome physical limitations + Thorpe can't walk and uses a wheelchair + There's a bottle of pills in Thorpe's desk = What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? (new clue)
  • What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? + A sniper killed Randal Leigh + They called Thorpe the "Surgeon" for his excellent aim as a sniper = Thorpe killed Randal (new clue)
  • I have to lure Thorpe into a trap + Thorpe keeps a gun in his desk drawer + What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? = This activates the end game sequence

 

 

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I found two previously unseen deductions. The requirement for them is to not look at the chest expander box in Yale's locker. It's a variation of deductions that lead to the same place:

 

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  • Dunn had 4 different neck marks + Someone threw a chest expander in the trash + Dunn wasn't tall enough to hang himself from that noose = Dunn was strangled with a chest expander (New Clue)
     
  • Dunn was strangled with a chest expander + Yale's locker is full of surprises = Dunn was strangled with Yale's chest expander (New Clue)

 

 

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Fruits of today's play session. I found a new clue for part of one deduction missing a clue; sadly, it requires a fourth clue:

 

Avenarius vanished after winning a fight, back when Yale was a kid + Yale is one of O’Leary’s “untouchables” according to his files + O’Leary has a guilty conscience for ratting someone out when he was 14, someone who ended up dead + ??? = ???

 

I was pretty sure it was supposed to be "O'Leary bet $5000 on Yale" that would go with this but it would cancel out when I tried it as the third option. Both of these clues didn't show up in my previous two playthroughs before as selectable in the mind palace. I can only attribute this to not looking at the paint bucket with the footprints at the beginning of the game but I'm not 100% sure.

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Fruits of today's play session. I found a new clue for part of one deduction missing a clue; sadly, it requires a fourth clue:

 

Avenarius vanished after winning a fight, back when Yale was a kid + Yale is one of O’Leary’s “untouchables” according to his files + O’Leary has a guilty conscience for ratting someone out when he was 14, someone who ended up dead + ??? = ???

 

 

The missing one is, that O'Leary doesn't leave anything to chance. The new deduction I received here is "O'Leary killed Yales father and rigs his games to clear his guilty conscience".

 

Unlocked this one yesterday. I HOPE I remember the right clue.

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The missing one is, that O'Leary doesn't leave anything to chance. The new deduction I received here is "O'Leary killed Yales father and rigs his games to clear his guilty conscience".

 

Unlocked this one yesterday. I HOPE I remember the right clue.

 

That sounds right. I take it you're in Europe and are likely playing on version 1.04 of this game?

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That sounds right. I take it you're in Europe and are likely playing on version 1.04 of this game?

 

And on PC, yes.

I do not know on what version the console versions are.

 

In any case, this was also the last deduction I needed and the achievement for finding all deductions popped.

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And on PC, yes.

I do not know on what version the console versions are.

 

In any case, this was also the last deduction I needed and the achievement for finding all deductions popped.

 

Ah, that makes sense, I've read that PC is actually at version 1.05 and should have all the issues fixed with the achievements. As far as I can tell, there are two deductions that can't be made on the PS4 version at 1.02: the connection between O'Leary and Avenarius and the deduction that Gil is being framed. I might be mis-remembering but I'm almost sure I was able to make the latter deduction on my very first playthrough but all my other 5 subsequent playthroughs when I was tracking all of them, I can't seem to be able to make that deduction.

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I failed to make that deduction, too, on my very first playthrough.

Two days ago, I started again, to get some missing achievements myself. This time, after the dalmatian is killed and Sonia calls Blacksad to her office, the first thing I did was making deductions. This time, it was possible to make the connection.

 

However, on my second round, I made no input when the game offered me to save the dalmatian. I do not think it's related, though. But just in case.

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I failed to make that deduction, too, on my very first playthrough.

Two days ago, I started again, to get some missing achievements myself. This time, after the dalmatian is killed and Sonia calls Blacksad to her office, the first thing I did was making deductions. This time, it was possible to make the connection.

 

However, on my second round, I made no input when the game offered me to save the dalmatian. I do not think it's related, though. But just in case.

 

That doesn't surprise me, this game is so glitch to be consistent.

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I failed to make that deduction, too, on my very first playthrough.

Two days ago, I started again, to get some missing achievements myself. This time, after the dalmatian is killed and Sonia calls Blacksad to her office, the first thing I did was making deductions. This time, it was possible to make the connection.

 

However, on my second round, I made no input when the game offered me to save the dalmatian. I do not think it's related, though. But just in case.

 

Similar here, on 1.03v I couldn't make those deductions, when I replayed the game from scratch on 1.05v I was able to do them during the flashbacks during the Barber/Poker chapter.

 

Edit.

 

Come one people can't someone figure this shit out? I'm tired of replaying this game 5 times already.

 

One thing that I found out thou that maybe the cause of the problem with this trophy is that some deductions can be skipped.

What I mean is that some deductions can be made with 4 clues at once or you can do them separately with 2 clues each, you can notice when your deduction counter goes down by more than just 1.

Like so.

 

Someone threw a paint can in the trash + When Dunn died, his knuckles were swollen = Dunn must have punched a paint can.

There's a paint stain on the gyms floor + Dunn must have punched a paint can + According to Jake, Dunn had a strong argument with Yale while he was painting the scaffold = Dunn must have punched the can while arguing with Yale.

Or

According to Jake, Dunn had a strong argument with Yale while he was painting the scaffold + Someone threw a paint can in the trash + When Dunn died, his knuckles were swollen + There's a paint stain on the gyms floor = Dunn must have punched the can while arguing with Yale.

 

Edit.

I also learned that you can lock yourself out of a deduction if you don't do them in order, for example you have to do the Helen Moore deductions first or you won't be able to do Avenarius deduction.

 

Final edit.

Finally got Smart Aleck and the plat on my 5th run, here's what I did differently.

Solved this deduction like so

Someone threw a paint can in the trash + When Dunn died, his knuckles were swollen = Dunn must have punched a paint can.

There's a paint stain on the gyms floor + Dunn must have punched a paint can + According to Jake, Dunn had a strong argument with Yale while he was painting the scaffold = Dunn must have punched the can while arguing with Yale.

Instead of

According to Jake, Dunn had a strong argument with Yale while he was painting the scaffold + Someone threw a paint can in the trash + When Dunn died, his knuckles were swollen + There's a paint stain on the gyms floor = Dunn must have punched the can while arguing with Yale.

Did all deductions with Moore and Oreily before doing the Avanaroius one and Stone throwing the fight.

Lastly, during the pier chapter I avoided solving deductions did only the necessary ones, solved them all after calling Smerkov in the final chapter.

 

That's all f this game.

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Similar here, on 1.03v I couldn't make those deductions, when I replayed the game from scratch on 1.05v I was able to do them during the flashbacks during the Barber/Poker chapter.

 

Edit.

 

Come one people can't someone figure this shit out? I'm tired of replaying this game 5 times already.

 

One thing that I found out thou that maybe the cause of the problem with this trophy is that some deductions can be skipped.

What I mean is that some deductions can be made with 4 clues at once or you can do them separately with 2 clues each, you can notice when your deduction counter goes down by more than just 1.

Like so.

 

Someone threw a paint can in the trash + When Dunn died, his knuckles were swollen = Dunn must have punched a paint can.

There's a paint stain on the gyms floor + Dunn must have punched a paint can + According to Jake, Dunn had a strong argument with Yale while he was painting the scaffold = Dunn must have punched the can while arguing with Yale.

Or

According to Jake, Dunn had a strong argument with Yale while he was painting the scaffold + Someone threw a paint can in the trash + When Dunn died, his knuckles were swollen + There's a paint stain on the gyms floor = Dunn must have punched the can while arguing with Yale.

 

Edit.

I also learned that you can lock yourself out of a deduction if you don't do them in order, for example you have to do the Helen Moore deductions first or you won't be able to do Avenarius deduction.

 

Final edit.

Finally got Smart Aleck and the plat on my 5th run, here's what I did differently.

Solved this deduction like so

 

Instead of

 

Did all deductions with Moore and Oreily before doing the Avanaroius one and Stone throwing the fight.

Lastly, during the pier chapter I avoided solving deductions did only the necessary ones, solved them all after calling Smerkov in the final chapter.

 

That's all f this game.

 

I finally got around to trying this using the Steam version. I managed not to unlock this trophy for both my playthroughs (following my trophy guide of course!). This is the only achievement left. I did follow your advice except for not doing anything that's not required until the very end. I might have to replay this again eventually and write out a proper guide for this trophy.

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On 9/10/2020 at 5:43 AM, chapomon said:

 

I finally got around to trying this using the Steam version. I managed not to unlock this trophy for both my playthroughs (following my trophy guide of course!). This is the only achievement left. I did follow your advice except for not doing anything that's not required until the very end. I might have to replay this again eventually and write out a proper guide for this trophy.

Hi, any news? I started this game as a Blacksad fan and I learned that the platinum should be available in Europe. Surprise! I can't do it. A card didn't spawn right in the last location and this Smart Aleck trophy is making me MAD. I'm pretty obsessive with my completion percentage and I CAN'T accept this game ruined mine!

I was following meticulously your posts, but some clues vanish, especially the Avenerius staff. Please help.

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5 hours ago, chapomon said:

I'm currently working on a guide for all the deductions using the Steam version since the PS4 NA version is still at 1.03. I'll be streaming it on Twitch.

Thank you! In the mean time a gamer on PSNprofiles uploaded this list of 46 complete deductions, but if there's a way to have guide that explains how the optional clues can be obtained and when a particular deduction have to be made before it's too late, it would be great!

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  • There's a smudged racial slur painted on Yale's locker + There's a stained towel in Arthur Tucker's locker = Arthur Tucker painted the racial slur on Yale’s locker (dialogue)
  • Yale's locker is full of surprises + Someone threw a chest expander in the trash = The chest expander in the trash belongs to Yale (New Clue)
  • The Buffalo that works for O'Leary wears a shamrock on his lapel + Jake got mad when he found me searching his locker = Jake won’t say he works for O’Leary (Note Entry, dialogue)
  • Mary calls Dunn "Joey" + Mary has nice and neat handwriting + Dunn's wife's wedding ring was in an envelope with Sonia's name handwritten on it = Mary and Dunn were seeing each other (New Clue)
  • Mary and Dunn were seeing each other + Dunn's wife's birthdate doesn't open the safe = Mary's birth date, that might open the safe, on a card on Dunn’s desk (new clue)
  • Mary's birth date might open the safe + There are cards with staff information on Dunn's table = Mary's birth date, that might open the safe, on a card on Dunn's desk (New Clue)
  • There's something fishy about about Dunn's suicide + Dunn's weight: 163 lbs - Height: 5'5" = Dunn wasn't tall enough to hang himself from that noose (New Clue)
  • Dunn had 4 different neck marks + The chest expander in the trash belongs to Yale + Dunn wasn't tall enough to hang himself from that noose = Dunn was strangled with Yale's chest expander (New Clue)
  • Someone threw a paint can in the trash + When Dunn died, his knuckles were swollen = Dunn must have punched a paint can (New Clue)
  • Dunn wanted to call off the fight + Dunn was strangled with Yale's chest expander = Did Yale kill Dunn just because he wanted to call off the fight? (Observation)
  • Dunn must have punched a paint can + According to Jake, Dunn had a strong argument with Yale while he was painting the scaffold + There is a paint stain on gym's floor
  • Mary has a cold + There's a scarf at Yale's place + Mary went to Luna Park with Yale = Mary's been at Yale's place recently (New Clue)
  • Yale's shoes smell like a dead man + Who do the footprints at the gym belong to? = Yale's soles don't match the footprints at the gym (new clue)
  • The doe nurse will be gone later for trauma surgery + Doctor Talbot has surgery today at 12:30 = The doe nurse will assisting Doctor Talbot during his 12:30 surgery
  • Doctor Palmer suggests that Yale rest after his heart attack + Yale's medical report is signed by one Doctor Ferguson + Yale had "extrasystole and dehydration caused by panic attack" = Who’s the guy passing as Yale’s doctor? (new clue)
  • Moore seduced Stone on O'Leary's orders + O'Leary has enough information to ruin Moore's career = O'Leary is blackmailing Stone by threatening Moore's career (note)
  • O'Leary claims to love his family unconditionally + Weekly took very explicit photographs of the Rhino and his lover = O'Leary's wife is having an affair with Colbert (new Clue)
  • O'Leary doesn't like to takes risks + O'Leary bet 5.000$ on Yale + Stone is more likely to win the fight with Yale = O'Leary riged the match
  • O’Leary’s feet on the table, a sign of dominance + Who do the footprints at the gym belong to? = O’Leary sole don’t match the footprints at the gym (new clue)
  • O'Leary keeps romantic pictures of Helen Moore in a drawer + Helen Moore carries a cigarette case bearing a romantic inscription = Helen Moore and Desmond O'Leary are still in love (new Clue)
  • Helen Moore says she hates O'Leary + Helen Moore and Desmond O'Leary are still in love = If she’s still in love, why does she claim she hates him? What is she hiding? (observation)
  • A paper tissue that smells like sardines in the gym office + An empty can of sardines at Dunn's place, open recently = The smelly gym burglar didn't find what he was looking for at Dunn's place (new clue)
  • At Dunn's place, there's a picture of a tree painted by his wife + Dunn hid the music box under the swing tire tree = Maybe Dunn used the same hiding place once more. (observation)
  • A piece of jean fabric on the stairs that lead to the gym rooftop + The Anteater has a tear in his pants = Matching Fabrics (observation, note entry)
  • The smelly gym burglar didn't find what he was looking for at Dunn's place + The Anteater's snout reeks of sardines = The anteater broke into the gym and Dunn’s place (new clue)
  • Who do the footprints at the gym belong to? + The gym burglar signed a document with his foot + The Anteater wears relatively small shoes = Matching footprints (observation, note entry) I saw footprints from those very same shoes next to both the gym murders
  • Two thugs tried to scare me into leaving the case, but one of them was trigger happy + The anteater broke into the gym and Dunn's place = Long snout (observation, note entry) One of the thugs that attacked me the other night had a snout just like that
  • The biography of Harry Bradwick, father of baseball, at Dunn's apartment + Craig Spannow was an orphan who thought baseball was his only family + Before Dunn found him, Spannow was living with his father = Spannow lives in Green-wood (observation, note entry)
  • Someone ordered Randal Leigh to commit those murders + O'Leary would personally kills anyone who threatens his family or business = O’Leary has nothing to do with Dunn’s death (new clue)
  • During the war, Dunn and his pals were known as the “Olympic Five” + Who’s the guy passing for Yale’s Doctor? = Mitchell, one of the Olympic five, tried to pass off as Yale’s doctor (New Clue)
  • Spannow blames everything on the "Surgeon", an old friend in common with Dunn + Mitchell, one of the Olympic five, tried to pass off as Yale’s doctor = Mitchell, “The Surgeon”, could be the persona behind the entire case (new clue)
  • Dunn's murderer had it all carefully planned out + Cassidy acts recklessly, by impulse = Cassidy is too impulsive to plan something as twisted as Dunn’s murder (new clue)
  • Two thugs tried to scare me so I drop the case and one seemed to be trigger happy + the horse standing guard is armed = the warehouse guard is trigger happy
  • The horse who works for Mitchell wears an arrowhead around his neck + There's an attic full of Indian objects in the port warehouse = The woman in the picture under the totem pole is Gill’s Mother (New Clue, Dialogue)
  • A list of names that somehow relate to rare chemical compounds + There's pill bottles with athlete's names in the lab + Spannow enhanced his performance by using drugs = Mitchell sells athletes drugs to enhance their performance (new clue)
  • Mitchell sells athletes drugs to enhance their performance + Spannow's health took a toll after using the drugs = Grune’s Drugs have unwanted side effects on athletes (new clue)
  • Gil works for Mitchell, even though he hates his guts + The cops found Gil close to the basement door + Mitchell was trapped in the basement = Maybe Gill blocked the basement door to kill Mitchell (new clue)
  • The warehouse guard is trigger happy + A sniper killed Randal Leigh + Gill had to kill a friend in order for the mission to succeed + Gil works for Mitchell, even though he hates his guts = Perhaps Mitchell ordered Gill to kill Randal Leigh (new clue)
  • A sniper killed Randal Leigh + Mitchell missed two shots point blank = Mitchell didn’t kill Randal Leigh personally (new clue)
  • Mitchell's drugs help overcome physical limitations + There was a bottle with Spannow's name on it in the ventilation shaft + Spannow stopped a fan with his bad arm + Spannow died shortly after recovering his strength = Mitchell’s drugs killed Spannow (new clue)
  • A list of names that somehow relate to rare chemical compounds + Thorpe hires athletes for advertising campaigns = What if Tim Thorpe was involved in Mitchell's operation? (New clue)
  • What if Tim Thorpe was involved in Mitchell's operation? + All of Thorpe's appointments are in his agenda = Maybe there’s a meeting with Mitchell in the agenda (new clue)
  • Spannow blames everything on the "Surgeon", an old friend common with Dunn + They called Thorpe the "Surgeon" for his excellent aim as a sniper + What if Tim Thorpe was involved in Mitchell's operation? = Thorpe is the mastermind behind the athlete doping operation (new clue)
  • Mitchell's drugs help overcome physical limitations + Thorpe can't walk and uses a wheelchair + There's a bottle of pills in Thorpe's desk = What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? (new clue)
  • What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? + A sniper killed Randal Leigh + They called Thorpe the "Surgeon" for his excellent aim as a sniper = Thorpe killed Randal (new clue)
  • I have to lure Thorpe into a trap + Thorpe keeps a gun in his desk drawer + What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? = This activates the end game sequence.

 

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So I finished my playthrough on the Steam version and I didn't get the achievement. It looks like I was on the right path though I got more deductions than the person you're referring too. I got 49 deductions, not 46. It seems where we diverged was at the beginning where they deduced that the chest expander belonged to Yale vs where I decided to make the Yale connection last when going through the clues around Dunn's death. I'll have to run through the game yet again to verify this.

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5 hours ago, FulgidoLucio said:

I hoped the list was a complete one 😞 This is living nightmare for a completionist...

Yes it is. I'm going with the list you provided but I already notice an issue with one of them though it's not that big of an issue technically. This time around, I'm going with immediately deducing the chest expander in the trash with the box in Yale's locker. We'll see how this goes.

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7 hours ago, FulgidoLucio said:

Thank you! In the mean time a gamer on PSNprofiles uploaded this list of 46 complete deductions, but if there's a way to have guide that explains how the optional clues can be obtained and when a particular deduction have to be made before it's too late, it would be great!

 

Going through the above guide, I see an issue with one of the deductions. The guide suggests the following: O'Leary doesn't like to takes risks + O'Leary bet 5.000$ on Yale + Stone is more likely to win the fight with Yale according to bets = O'Leary used Moore to manipulate Stone, so he fold against Yale (new clue) <F>

 

This is not correct because it is not including the clue "O’Leary is threatening Stone with Ruining Moore’s". You MUST put the clue "O’Leary is threatening Stone with Ruining Moore’s" first or second when making this clue in order to get the proper clue "O’Leary used Moore to manipulate Stone forcing him to take a dive against Yale" because if you don't, you will get "O’Leary used Moore to manipulate Stone forcing him to take a dive against Yale" instead which cannot be used in deducing that O'Leary killed Avenarius.

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Ok, I finally got the Smart Aleck Steam achievement. Here is what I did with notes. The deductions are broken down by the levels I made them in.
 

Dunn’s Gym Following Blacksad Picking Up His Lockpicks and Stopping By Yale’s Apartment


Important Note: With the deductions around Mary’s relationship with Dunn and the ring need to be put together in the longest steps. Putting together the following will give you one less deduction: (Do not do: Mary calls Dunn "Joey" + Mary has nice and neat handwriting + Dunn's wife's wedding ring was in an envelope with Sonia's name handwritten on it = Mary and Dunn were seeing each other (New Clue))

 

 

  1. The Buffalo that works for O'Leary wears a shamrock on his lapel + Jake got mad when he found me searching his locker = Jake won’t say he works for O’Leary (Note Entry, dialogue)
  2. There's a smudged racial slur painted on Yale's locker + There's a stained towel in Arthur Tucker's locker = Arthur Tucker painted the racial slur on Yale’s locker (Dialogue)
  3. Mary has nice and neat handwriting + Dunn's wife's wedding ring was in an envelope with Sonia's name handwritten on it = Mary put the ring in the envelope (New Clue)
  4. Mary put the ring in the envelope + Mary calls Dunn "Joey" = Mary and Dunn were seeing each other (New Clue)
  5. Mary and Dunn were seeing each other + Dunn's wife's birthdate doesn't open the safe = Mary’s birth date might open the safe (New Clue)
  6. Mary's birth date might open the safe + There are cards with staff information on Dunn's table = Mary's birth date, that might open the safe, on a card on Dunn's desk (New Clue)
  7. Yale's locker is full of surprises + Someone threw a chest expander in the trash = The chest expander in the trash belongs to Yale (New Clue)


Dunn’s Gym Following the Meeting with Smirnov


Important Notes: Look at the chest expander in Yale’s locker first and make the deduction that the chest expander in the trash belongs to Yale. While you can wait later to deduce the chest expander belongs to Yale after deducing that Dunn was strangled with a chest expander and still have the same number of deductions, I unlocked this achievement on Steam by doing “Yale's locker is full of surprises + Someone threw a chest expander in the trash = The chest expander in the trash belongs to Yale” first rather than “Yale’s Locker is full of surprises + Dunn was strangled with a chest expander = Dunn was strangled with Yale's chest expander (New Clue)” later.


8. Someone threw a paint can in the trash + When Dunn died, his knuckles were swollen = Dunn must have punched a paint can (New Clue)
9. According to Jake, Dunn had a strong argument with Yale while he was painting on the scaffold + Dunn must have punched a paint can + There’s a paint stain on the gym floor = Dunn must have punched the can while arguing with Yale. (Observation)
10. There's something fishy about Dunn's suicide + Dunn's weight: 163 lbs - Height: 5'5" = Dunn wasn't tall enough to hang himself from that noose (New Clue)
11. Dunn had 4 different neck marks + The chest expander in the trash belongs to Yale + Dunn wasn't tall enough to hang himself from that noose = Dunn was strangled with Yale’s chest expander (New Clue)
12. Dunn wanted to call off the fight + Dunn was strangled with Yale's chest expander = Did Yale kill Dunn just because he wanted to call off the fight? (Observation)

 

Yale’s Apartment


13. Mary has a cold + There's a scarf at Yale's place + Mary went to Luna Park with Yale = Mary's been at Yale's place recently (New Clue)


Hospital: Cardiology Department


14. Yale's shoes smell like a dead man + Who do the footprints at the gym belong to? = Yale's soles don't match the footprints at the gym (New Clue)
15. The doe nurse will be gone later for trauma surgery + Doctor Talbot has surgery today at 12:30 = The doe nurse will assisting Doctor Talbot during his 12:30 surgery (New Clue)


Dunn’s Gym Following Hospital Visit


16. Doctor Palmer suggests that Yale rest after his heart attack + Yale's medical report is signed by one Doctor Ferguson + Yale had "extrasystole and dehydration caused by panic attack" = Who’s the guy passing as Yale’s doctor? (New Clue)


O’Leary’s Hideout


17. Moore Seduced Stone by O’Leary’s Demand + O’Leary has enough information to ruin Moore’s career = O’Leary is Threatening Stone with Ruining Moore’s Career (New Clue)
18. O'Leary claims to love his family unconditionally + Weekly took very explicit photographs of the Rhino and his lover = O'Leary's wife is having an affair with Colbert (new Clue)

 

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Farnham’s Hotel Room

 

Important Note: Players have reported that the deductions for O’Leary using Moore to rig the boxing match and Avenarius’ death must be made during the flashbacks in this level as once you get to Dunn’s Gym where you can make more deductions again, you will be unable to make them due to new clues pushing the necessary clues out of Blacksad’s mind palace. You also need to be careful while making the deduction for “O’Leary used Moore to manipulate Stone forcing him to take a dive against Yale.” You MUST put the clue "O’Leary is threatening Stone with Ruining Moore’s" first or second when making this clue in order to get the proper clue "O’Leary used Moore to manipulate Stone forcing him to take a dive against Yale" because if you don't, you will get " O’Leary has rigged the fight between Yale and Stone " instead which cannot be used in deducing that O'Leary killed Avenarius. (Do Not Do: O’Leary always plays it safe + O’Leary bet $5000 on Yale + Judging by the bets, Stone is a clear favorite against Yale = O’Leary has rigged the fight between Yale and Stone (New Clue))

 

If you’re trying to do this while trying to get the sports cards in one go, do the deductions during multiple flashbacks. The timer does not move when you’re in the mind palace but you are not able to retreat back to the mind palace while there are prompts at the top of the HUD. Use that pause to move Blacksad about the room until the prompts go away and you’re able to go back to the mind palace.

 

19. O'Leary keeps romantic pictures of Helen Moore in a drawer + Helen Moore carries a cigarette case bearing a romantic inscription = Helen Moore and Desmond O'Leary are still in love (New Clue)

20. Helen Moore says she hates O'Leary + Helen Moore and Desmond O'Leary are still in love = If she’s still in love, why does she claim she hates him? What is she hiding? (Observation)

21. O’Leary’s feet on the table, a sign of dominance + Who do the footprints at the gym belong to? = O’Leary sole don’t match the footprints at the gym (New Clue)

22. O’Leary is threatening Stone with Ruining Moore’s career + O’Leary always plays it safe + O’Leary bet $5000 on Yale + Judging by the bets, Stone is a clear favorite against Yale = O’Leary used Moore to manipulate Stone forcing him to take a dive against Yale (New Clue)

23. Avenarius vanished after winning a fight, back when Yale was a kid + Yale is one of O’Leary’s “untouchables” according to his files + O’Leary has a guilty conscience for ratting someone out when he was 14, someone who ended up dead + O’Leary used Moore to manipulate Stone forcing him to take a dive against Yale = O’Leary caused the death of Yale’s father and now rigs his fights to quiet his guilty conscience (New Clue)

 

Dunn’s Apartment

 

24. A paper tissue that smells like sardines in the gym office + An empty can of sardines at Dunn's place, open recently = The smelly gym burglar didn't find what he was looking for at Dunn's place (new clue)

 

Rooftop of Dunn’s Gym

 

25. At Dunn's place, there's a picture of a tree painted by his wife + Dunn hid the music box under the swing tire tree = Maybe Dunn used the same hiding place once more. (Observation)

 

Randal’s Hospital Room

 

26. A piece of jean fabric on the stairs that lead to the gym rooftop + The Anteater has a tear in his pants = Matching Fabrics (Observation, Note Entry)

27. The smelly gym burglar didn't find what he was looking for at Dunn's place + The Anteater's snout reeks of sardines = The anteater broke into the gym and Dunn’s place (New Clue)

28. Who do the footprints at the gym belong to? + The gym burglar signed a document with his foot + The Anteater wears relatively small shoes = Matching footprints (Observation, Note Entry)

29. Two thugs tried to scare me into leaving the case, but one of them was trigger happy + The anteater broke into the gym and Dunn's place = Long snout (Observation, Note Entry)

30. The biography of Harry Bradwick, father of baseball, at Dunn's apartment + Craig Spannow was an orphan who thought baseball was his only family + Before Dunn found him, Spannow was living with his father = Spannow lives in Green-wood (Observation, Note Entry)

 

Green-wood Cemetery

 

Important Note: You must get the Mitchell tried to pass himself off as Yale's doctor deduction before finding Spannow as talking to him will give you a replacement clue plus the deduction without Blacksad having made it.

 

31. During the war, Dunn and his pals were known as the “Olympic Five” + Who’s the guy passing for Yale’s Doctor? = Mitchell, one of the Olympic five, tried to pass off as Yale’s doctor (New Clue)

32. O’Leary personally kills anyone who threatens his family or business + Someone ordered Randal Leigh to commit those murders = O’Leary has nothing to do with Dunn’s death (New Clue)

33. Spannow blames everything on the "Surgeon", an old friend in common with Dunn + Mitchell, one of the Olympic five, tried to pass off as Yale’s doctor = Mitchell, “The Surgeon”, could be the persona behind the entire case (New Clue)

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Weekly’s Darkroom

 

34. Dunn's murderer had it all carefully planned out + Cassidy acts recklessly, by impulse = Cassidy is too impulsive to plan something as twisted as Dunn’s murder (New Clue)

 

Pier 36

 

35. The Horse Standing guard at the warehouse is armed + Two thugs tried to scare me into leaving the case, but one of the was trigger happy = The warehouse guard is trigger happy (New Clue)

 

Warehouse and Basement

 

36. The horse who works for Mitchell wears an arrowhead around his neck + There's an attic full of Indian objects in the port warehouse = The woman in the picture under the totem pole is Gill’s Mother (New Clue, Dialogue)

37. A list of names that somehow relate to rare chemical compounds + There's pill bottles with athlete's names in the lab + Spannow enhanced his performance by using drugs = Mitchell sells athletes drugs to enhance their performance (New Clue)

38. Mitchell sells athletes drugs to enhance their performance + Spannow's health took a toll after using the drugs = Grune’s Drugs have unwanted side effects on athletes (New Clue)

 

The Wrap up With Smirnov

 

Note: You can make the deduction for Gill killing Randal in the basement but I made it during the conversation with Smirnov during the playthrough that it unlocked for me. Making it in either locations works.

 

39. Gil works for Mitchell, even though he hates his guts + The cops found Gil close to the basement door + Mitchell was trapped in the basement = Maybe Gill blocked the basement door to kill Mitchell (New Clue)

40. The warehouse guard is trigger happy + A sniper killed Randal Leigh + Gill had to kill a friend in order for the mission to succeed + Gil works for Mitchell, even though he hates his guts = Perhaps Mitchell ordered Gill to kill Randal Leigh (New Clue)

41. A sniper killed Randal Leigh + Mitchell missed two shots point blank = Mitchell didn’t kill Randal Leigh personally (New Clue)

42. Mitchell's drugs help overcome physical limitations + There was a bottle with Spannow's name on it in the ventilation shaft + Spannow stopped a fan with his bad arm + Spannow died shortly after recovering his strength = Mitchell’s drugs killed Spannow (New Clue)

 

Thorpe’s Agency

 

43. A list of names that somehow relate to rare chemical compounds + Thorpe hires athletes for advertising campaigns = What if Tim Thorpe was involved in Mitchell's operation? (New clue)

44. What if Tim Thorpe was involved in Mitchell's operation? + All of Thorpe's appointments are in his agenda = Maybe there’s a meeting with Mitchell in the agenda (New Clue)

45. Mitchell's drugs help overcome physical limitations + Thorpe can't walk and uses a wheelchair + There's a bottle of pills in Thorpe's desk = What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? (New Clue)

46. What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? + A sniper killed Randal Leigh + They called Thorpe the "Surgeon" for his excellent aim as a sniper = Thorpe killed Randal (New Clue)

47. Spannow blames everything on the "Surgeon", an old friend common with Dunn + They called Thorpe the "Surgeon" for his excellent aim as a sniper + What if Tim Thorpe was involved in Mitchell's operation? = Thorpe is the mastermind behind the athlete doping operation (New Clue)

48. I have to lure Thorpe into a trap + Thorpe keeps a gun in his desk drawer + What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? = This activates the end game sequence

 

Broken Deduction: If you call Smirnov at Thorpe's Agency, you will get the clue "Gill says someone knocked him unconscious and left him right by the basement entrance" which appears to be part of a deduction where Blacksad deduces that Thorpe put Gill there but this seems to be broken but is not necessary to unlock Smart Aleck. When I unlocked it on Steam, I did not call Smirnov.

Gill says someone knocked him unconscious and left him right by the basement entrance + What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? + The cops found gill close to the basement door + ??? = ???

 

One other thing. I did not start new game from the first stream attempt, I started back at the Smirnov meeting which is after I made the Mary relationship, racism and Jake deductions and was able to unlock the achievement with the only major change being deducing that the chest expander in the trash is Yale's before the other Dunn's death deductions. The biggest question now is whether this walkthrough will unlock Smart Aleck on the PS4 version. The version on Steam right now is listed at 1.04. I cannot test this for myself as the North American version is only at 1.03 and last I checked, I was unable to make the Avenarius deductions. Until we see a newer patch here in North America, I won't be able to test this myself and I won't be able to get the platinum until then.

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On 1/10/2021 at 7:05 PM, chapomon said:

Weekly’s Darkroom

 

 

34. Dunn's murderer had it all carefully planned out + Cassidy acts recklessly, by impulse = Cassidy is too impulsive to plan something as twisted as Dunn’s murder (New Clue)

 

 

Pier 36

 

 

35. The Horse Standing guard at the warehouse is armed + Two thugs tried to scare me into leaving the case, but one of the was trigger happy = The warehouse guard is trigger happy (New Clue)

 

 

Warehouse and Basement

 

 

36. The horse who works for Mitchell wears an arrowhead around his neck + There's an attic full of Indian objects in the port warehouse = The woman in the picture under the totem pole is Gill’s Mother (New Clue, Dialogue)

 

37. A list of names that somehow relate to rare chemical compounds + There's pill bottles with athlete's names in the lab + Spannow enhanced his performance by using drugs = Mitchell sells athletes drugs to enhance their performance (New Clue)

 

38. Mitchell sells athletes drugs to enhance their performance + Spannow's health took a toll after using the drugs = Grune’s Drugs have unwanted side effects on athletes (New Clue)

 

 

The Wrap up With Smirnov

 

 

Note: You can make the deduction for Gill killing Randal in the basement but I made it during the conversation with Smirnov during the playthrough that it unlocked for me.

 

 

39. Gil works for Mitchell, even though he hates his guts + The cops found Gil close to the basement door + Mitchell was trapped in the basement = Maybe Gill blocked the basement door to kill Mitchell (New Clue)

 

40. The warehouse guard is trigger happy + A sniper killed Randal Leigh + Gill had to kill a friend in order for the mission to succeed + Gil works for Mitchell, even though he hates his guts = Perhaps Mitchell ordered Gill to kill Randal Leigh (New Clue)

 

41. A sniper killed Randal Leigh + Mitchell missed two shots point blank = Mitchell didn’t kill Randal Leigh personally (New Clue)

 

42. Mitchell's drugs help overcome physical limitations + There was a bottle with Spannow's name on it in the ventilation shaft + Spannow stopped a fan with his bad arm + Spannow died shortly after recovering his strength = Mitchell’s drugs killed Spannow (New Clue)

 

 

Thorpe’s Agency

 

 

43. A list of names that somehow relate to rare chemical compounds + Thorpe hires athletes for advertising campaigns = What if Tim Thorpe was involved in Mitchell's operation? (New clue)

 

44. What if Tim Thorpe was involved in Mitchell's operation? + All of Thorpe's appointments are in his agenda = Maybe there’s a meeting with Mitchell in the agenda (New Clue)

 

45. Mitchell's drugs help overcome physical limitations + Thorpe can't walk and uses a wheelchair + There's a bottle of pills in Thorpe's desk = What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? (New Clue)

 

46. What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? + A sniper killed Randal Leigh + They called Thorpe the "Surgeon" for his excellent aim as a sniper = Thorpe killed Randal (New Clue)

 

47. Spannow blames everything on the "Surgeon", an old friend common with Dunn + They called Thorpe the "Surgeon" for his excellent aim as a sniper + What if Tim Thorpe was involved in Mitchell's operation? = Thorpe is the mastermind behind the athlete doping operation (New Clue)

 

48. I have to lure Thorpe into a trap + Thorpe keeps a gun in his desk drawer + What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? = This activates the end game sequence

 

Broken Deduction: If you call Smirnov at Thorpe's Agency, you will get the clue "Gill says someone knocked him unconscious and left him right by the basement entrance" which appears to be part of a deduction where Blacksad deduces that Thorpe put Gill there but this seems to be broken but is not necessary to unlock Smart Aleck. When I unlocked it on Steam, I did not call Smirnov.

Gill says someone knocked him unconscious and left him right by the basement entrance + What if the drugs help Thorpe walk? + The cops found gill close to the basement door + ??? = ???

 

One other thing. I did not start new game from the first stream attempt, I started back at the Smirnov meeting which is after I made the Mary relationship, racism and Jake deductions and was able to unlock the achievement with the only major change being deducing that the chest expander in the trash is Yale's before the other Dunn's death deductions. The biggest question now is whether this walkthrough will unlock Smart Aleck on the PS4 version. The version on Steam right now is listed at 1.04. I cannot test this for myself as the North American version is only at 1.03 and last I checked, I was unable to make the Avenarius deductions. Until we see a newer patch here in North America, I won't be able to test this myself and I won't be able to get the platinum until then.

Wow, that's outstanding! You'd deserve a prize! So the deductions are 48 in total.

That leaves to the sport cards... I only made one complete playthrough so far and just one card didn't spawn in the very last part, but there was one that shouldn't be in the gym that was impossible to take (in the gym there are 24 cards and that one was a 25th). I don't know. Someone advised me to go for this trophy in a blank account, because if this glitch occured in my first run, it's going to happen in every next run (and then I have to delete my main account and synchronize it with the blank account after getting the trophy). Wish me luck!

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On 5/27/2020 at 11:30 PM, Externica said:

 

The missing one is, that O'Leary doesn't leave anything to chance. The new deduction I received here is "O'Leary killed Yales father and rigs his games to clear his guilty conscience".

 

Unlocked this one yesterday. I HOPE I remember the right clue.

 

The three other clues only showed up after I used "O'Leary doesn't leave anything to chance" for a different deduction which made it disappear. The fourth clue for this deduction for me was "O'Leary forced Stone to lose against Yale or he'd destroy Moore's career".

 

(Not the exact phrasing, but that is what the clue says.)

 

Edit: Surprisingly, I got the trophy at deduction #47, even though I already had that on previous playthroughs. The game for some reason skipped visiting Yale's apartment this time and kept holding back clues even though they should have been available, so I guess something got confused.  I didn't even expect the trophy to unlock as I figured I missed too many. I did use one new deduction this round earlier, but I forgot which one it was.

 

So, yeah, no idea how this works internally, just glad I got it.

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