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[MilkBone]

I will be hitting this as soon as I finish the campaign. So much to talk about so far. Like the chapter you play as Luke. He finds that compass! That must be the compass he used to find the Jedi temple.

[Harry94_]

Saw mention of Iden and Del being Rey’s parents, because of how Kylo mentions their daughter at the end. Don’t think they’d have mentioned they had a daughter without some reason behind it.

[Blaze Naruto Shippuden]

Saw mention of Iden and Del being Rey’s parents, because of how Kylo mentions their daughter at the end. Don’t think they’d have mentioned they had a daughter without some reason behind it.

 

I heard about that a few days ago. I had watched this theory about it:

 

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Daisy Ridley is right though. If these two are her parents it wasn't that special and not a big mystery. Star Wars fans just want another big reveal like "I am your father." This wasn't it.

[Lord Chabelo]

Either Rey is a Solo or a nobody. If she is a Skywalker then Luke is the worst sensitive father ever.

[Patrin18]

Either Rey is a Solo or a nobody. If she is a Skywalker then Luke is the worst sensitive father ever.

 

Well his own father wasn't winning any daddy awards now haha

[MilkBone]

Just finished campaign. Yeah, I think they were totally going to mislead people making them think Rey is the mentioned daughter.

 

But what the heck!?! The campaign was great until they just leave you hanging at the end and then say that Iden’s story continues online. What is that!?! Seriously!?

 

But Del kept saying to not make her come after Hask? So maybe they are working on a story expansion where Iden returns and kicks Hask’s arse?

[WitcherQueen]

someone needs to explain the whole story to me. I understand most things, but I'm still confused. Especially at the end regarding Kylo. Also poor Del.

[Patrin18]

Story DLC coming in December. That should explain the daughter and Iden/Hask being settled

[MilkBone]

Story DLC coming in December. That should explain the daughter and Iden/Hask being settled

 

Oh great! Cuz the ending was horse crap if there was nothing to follow.

[MrBeens]

Story DLC coming in December.

 

Hmmm, Coincidentally(?) that is when Episode 8 releases in theaters... Still would be stupid to make Rey the daughter, as 99% of the movie going audience would have zero knowledge of the video game story.

[Patrin18]

Yeah each week in december has different dlc to celebrate movie but I imagine the story won't be connected to story of movie other than to be same time period.

[WitcherQueen]

Was anyone else confused by the story, or was it just me? I mean, it was a short fairly contained story arch, but eh...

 

 

Hmmm, Coincidentally(?) that is when Episode 8 releases in theaters... Still would be stupid to make Rey the daughter, as 99% of the movie going audience would have zero knowledge of the video game story.

I agree. Not to sound mean or be misinterpreted (or anything else), but how would it work if Rey was Iden and Del's child? Rey doesn't really look like either of them..?

 

Nonetheless I am intrigued by this free additional story DLC content. Though for those who buy the game and don't see the new movie (or the Force Awakens) wouldn't they be a bit confused, no? (again agreeing with your second point: more people are 'casuals' and would only see the movie and not play the game).

[BloodAngel]

I didn't like how quickly they had Iden switch sides. I knew it was going to happen, but it seems like a total bait and switch with how early it did. I also think it was a lazy way to write the story. They kept saying how we were seeing it from the side of the Empire. Would have been a much better story in my opinion if they stuck to that. Show Iden seeing the dark side of the Empire and then have her try to change it from the inside. Break away from the main group and create a splinter faction of the Empire that lives up to the ideals she has, but maintains the order that she thinks the galaxy needs. I am tired of the same old boring plots. Focus more in the grey area of the galaxy, not the black and white parts.

[Nimoy]

I enjoyed the campaign but it felt like a wasted opportunity. Iden switched to the Rebels almost immediately and we are supposed to believe that before that moment she never did anything that made her doubt that she was doing the right thing? Although I agree with her that Operation: Cinder makes no sense, but there was no internal struggle after a lifetime in the Empire. She decides it's wrong, is instantly accepted into the Rebellion, and repaints her droid.

 

The big reveal of the Star Destroyer on Jakku at the end was kind of anticlimactic as well, since there were already a few crashed Star Destroyers when she arrived. The Iden & Del romance was really shoehorned in at the end.

 

Also the developers get the chance to make a CANON story/level featuring Luke and they decide to have him spend half of the 15-minute level fighting bugs!?

 

The fact that the campaign was advertised as a story spanning 30 years is so misleading...12 out of 13 levels take place within a year of Return of the Jedi. Then it jumps 30 years into the future for the last ten minutes.

[MilkBone]

The fact that the campaign was advertised as a story spanning 30 years is so misleading...12 out of 13 levels take place within a year of Return of the Jedi. Then it jumps 30 years into the future for the last ten minutes.

 

It sounds like a to be continued thing with more story coming in December DLC.

[CaptainNick]

It sounds like a to be continued thing with more story coming in December DLC.

 

So? That still leaves a 30 year gap between Jakku and the end of the game. I would've thought we got to see more of the Empire turning into the First Order.

Of course since Iden and Del abruptly changed sides that wasn't gonna happen anyway.

 

I thought the story overall was pretty entertaining but the way it was told was terrible. There was no real character development. They go from hardcore empire followers to rebels just like that. And oh, by the way, Iden and Del are actually in love out of nowhere.

I read the Inferno Squad novel and Iden kept defending the Empire after Alderaan was destroyed, thinking they had a good reason for it and wanted revenge when the Death Star was destroyed. They infiltrated a rebel group and in the and killed them without mercy, but as soon as her own world is on the line (which seems like a cheap way to find a way for Iden to turn) she goes rogue without thinking of any other solutions and Hask is willing to kill his team on the spot.

 

They should have just kept them in the Empire, that's what I thought the story was about in the first place and would've been a lot more interesting.

And there's no way in hell Rey's gonna be Del and Iden's daughter. If that was the case there would've been a lot more care placed in telling the story.

Edited November 19, 2017 by CaptainNick

[Asuka Langley]

So? That still leaves a 30 year gap between Jakku and the end of the game. I would've thought we got to see more of the Empire turning into the First Order.

Of course since Iden and Del abruptly changed sides that wasn't gonna happen anyway.

 

And there's no way in hell Rey's gonna be Del and Iden's daughter. If that was the case there would've been a lot more care placed in telling the story.

 

 

Except the story isn't over yet.

 

We've still got content added on to go, the first of which drops next month called Ressurection which follows Iden through the first order's rise to power, now I'm guessing we'll see her kid in this and if it's not Rey I'm throwing money on it being Rose.

 

I have a feeling this story DLC is going to take us through some of the time inbetween the end of Jakku's battle and the start of the end of the game... Though I'm not sure how much we'll see, hopefully something of Del and Iden raising their kid or something similar, though we'll probably see more post Discovery content if anything which is a bit disappointing

 

this DOESNT however account for future content additions which could fill in the gaps for us... hopefully... please ffs EA.

Edited November 21, 2017 by Asuka Langley

[Patrin18]

Some interesting ideas for what the DLC might be, but given Kylo was a grown man at the end surely the DLC picks up with Hask meeting Iden after he killed Del. So the DLC will be closer to FA/TLJ time than it will the Jakku time period.

 

Unless the DLC levels are a prequel level to the last one in game.

[CaptainNick]

Except the story isn't over yet.

 

We've still got content added on to go, the first of which drops next month called Ressurection which follows Iden through the first order's rise to power, now I'm guessing we'll see her kid in this and if it's not Rey I'm throwing money on it being Rose.

 

She was never part of the first order though. It might take place in the time gap between Jakku and the end of the game (was that officially anounced?) But my guess is it takes place after Del died. Which is probably what I'm more interested in at this point.

[Patrin18]

DLC trailer shows a tiny tiny glimpse at SP chapters. Looks like an older Iden, with her daughter searching for information on the strenght of First Order to send to Leia. I guess she works as a recon freelancer of some sort, not fully in the fight but slowly coming back in.

[Stalemate9]

It looks like Zay is in a tie fighter with Shriv, interesting!

[Patrin18]

Completed the DLC and I have to say overall the character of Iden was wasted. Considering the writer did Spec Ops the Line. This story could have been better and the ending was so bland. Enjoyable but nothing to get excited about.

[Scrummy64]

Completed the DLC and I have to say overall the character of Iden was wasted. Considering the writer did Spec Ops the Line. This story could have been better and the ending was so bland. Enjoyable but nothing to get excited about.

 

The most upsetting for me is that I read the Inferno Squad novel in the weeks leading up to the game's release, and it held so much promise for how the game's story would turn out.

 

The book firmly established Iden as a complex, multi-layered character who firmly believed in the good within the Empire despite being well aware of the evil sat at its summit, while resenting the Rebellion for their liberal nature - a liberalism she could only view as anarchy - and their occasionally extremist tactics, in the case of the Partisans. When she watched the first Death Star destroy Alderaan, she mourned the thousands of innocents who were killed, but saw the casualties as necessary sacrifices.

 

So it really sucked for me when she went full turncoat about a third of the way through the campaign. I could buy that she would turn on the Empire for attacking Vardos, purely because it's her home planet and she's depicted as being quite fragile when it comes to her personal life, but what I can't accept are that she would

a) Join the Rebellion on a complete whim despite idealistically despising them her entire life up til now, and

b) Quite contently start gunning down hundreds of Imperial stormtroopers, who she's well aware are mostly just hard-working soldiers (in the book she really beats herself up for having to merely stun a stormtrooper on one occasion).

 

One character the game absolutely did get right is Gideon Hask, who the book depicted as being both utterly vindictive and borderline-psychopathic despite having grown up alongside Iden; Del Meeko, meanwhile, was pretty true to the established canon in that he's always believed in simply doing the right thing, regardless of the side he'd have to stand with, although the sudden romance at the end received no build-up whatsoever in either the book or the game.

 

When it comes to Iden, however, I feel like the game pretty much s**t all over her established character. Really disappointing.

[WitcherQueen]

Can't believe I wasted money buying the elite trooper deluxe edition- all the wanted to play was the story campaign. No more preorders for me, especially EA games. I was confused and majorly disappointed by the base game's story. Doubly so for resurrection. WTF. They essentially killed everyone off. They had a lot of potential. Dammit EA.

 

Also IMO there's absolutely NO valid reason they didn't put resurrection and whatever the next dlc will be onto the disc. Besides tying it with SW the last jedi's release. Let's all hope EA's Star Wars games license doesn't get renewed.