Crysis 3
Pre-Owned Block in Next-Gen Consoles? That Would be "Awesome," says Crytek
Written Wednesday, April 25, 2012 By Lee Bradley
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Crysis 3 developer Crytek has come out in support of the concept of console manufacturers blocking the use of pre-owned games.

In recent months rumours have circulated that both Sony and Microsoft’s next console would block second hand games, ultimately putting an end to the pre-owned game market. Rasmus Højengaard, a lead developer at Crytek, would welcome it. 

“From a business perspective that would be absolutely awesome,” said Højengaard, before going on to say that he is surprised the practice of trade-ins exists at all.

“It's weird that [second-hand sales] are still allowed,” he continued, “because it doesn't work like that in any other software industries, so it would be great if they could somehow fix that issue as well.”

Højengaard's words shouldn't be surprising. Publishers and developers do not make money from pre-owned game sales, after all. Yet, community response to the possibility of a second hand game block in next gen consoles has been er... slightly different. Let's just say users don't think the prospect is "awesome."

[via CVG]


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Comment #1 by Bounty V
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:16:08 AM
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I don't like the idea at all. Quality wise, not all games are worth the $60 you have to pay on release date, or even the lowered prices of 40 and 20 later on.

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Comment #2 by DeBunez
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:17:12 AM
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fuck these developers. Sharing games has been a part of gaming since the beginning of console gaming. Screw them if they want to make and extra buck by fucking people over.

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Comment #3 by Grafinenko
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:18:46 AM
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Sorry to be rude, but fuck you Crytek. “ Because it doesn't work like that in any other software industries" Is that guy serious ? The pre-owned market exist in all kind of industries. ( Books, DVD, Cars, TV...) I don't see any reasons why videogames should be an exception .

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Comment #4 by Bounty V
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:19:04 AM
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(too bad you can't edit user comments) Also, if anything, I think Crytek just lost a customer for Crysis 3. I'm quite insulted by their stance. I can understand making money, but pre owned sales have gone on for as long as video games have been around. Trying to make a shift towards video games only being for the wealthy who can afford games brand new is absolutely ridiculous. It would be like trying to own the internet and only give access to a handful of people who can afford your steep prices.

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Comment #5 by SUM1SLY
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:20:04 AM
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so they want to take away are right to sell something that we bought and own why are game makers getting away with this i can't think of anything else that you buy but you can't sell on if you want to.

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Comment #6 by Jandeku
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:20:11 AM
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It's not just second-hand sales they're stopping...
They're pulling a break on friends sharing games with each other, and THIS is what vexes me the most.

Don't fucking do it.

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Comment #7 by StAjora
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:24:15 AM
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I understand they're point of view when the see number of money that could and ''should'' be to them in a way but some reseller make money on them
but i do not wish for that to happen
like i plan on buying some games pre owned ill just pass from now on
you really think its the way it should be ?
my friend handed me Obivion , wich I liked , then i decided to buy fallout NV and Skyrim
2 games they wouldnt have sold if not of a burrowed game, so I think in long term this could be a bad decision if they do that

you just have to remember the epic fail of the pspgo who was dlc only

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Comment #8 by ninek
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:24:31 AM
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I hate crytek for this!

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Comment #9 by maddodd1882
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:25:09 AM
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I'll just have to wait two years when amazon or play or a company brings the price down, well... bye bye release purcheses, no more day one.

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Comment #10 by TroubleMaker411
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:25:36 AM
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I'm just gonna have to give up gaming i think.

If you take away the ability to sell on games that I took a risk on, but didn't like, then I aint gonna buy your shit simple as that.

It's not even new stuff. Look at Ninja Gaiden 3. How many people picked that up on the name alone.
It turned out to be shit, I sold it on.
You take away my ability to do that, then I can't justify spending £40 on your piece of shit game.

Especially you CRYTEK!
When your Crysis 2 single player was over in 6 hours and the multi was fucking awful, what reason have I got NOT to trade your game in?

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Comment #11 by maddodd1882
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:27:44 AM
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Oh yeah better explain that as it didnt make sense, if you buy day one then finish it quite quickly then you can get a decent return by selling it on, but if you cant sell it on then i gotta wait for the price to come right down, i can wait.

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Comment #12 by SUM1SLY
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:28:06 AM
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so now if you have say 3 ps4s in your house you can't use the same game on a differnt console if you think i'm buying the same game 3x over i won't even buy it once and i'll find something else to spend my money on this is a joke.hope no1 will support this shit.

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Comment #13 by maur1c1o
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:29:49 AM
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Ah No DVD's don't have such think you moron. Anyways Bad idea in my opinion yes sales might be slighter higher but what about homes with 2/3 consoles what about big families anyways theirs few games in my opinion i would buy at full price and implementing this would just cut back on me trying out new games which = people only playing the triple AA titles if you have to fork a shit loads for every game then people will only buy those they familiar with so any new game idea will struggle like Enslaved or Alan Wake sales wont great cause know the market is dominate by triple AA title. I would have never had tried battlefield therefore not bought BF3 NEW i would have never played a GEARS OF WAR game therefore not bought Gears 3. but who cares what we think we wont have a say in it one thing is for sure if thats the case i wont be on a rush to go to the next gen. LOVE my Xbox 360 and ps3 and WII so not in a huge rush

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Comment #14 by Ice884
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:30:05 AM
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Yea I won't even buy crysis 2 now thanks to cryteks comment. If they put that used game block in there so many companys are gonna get hurt because people are NOT gonna buy a brand new game and run the risk of it being very very shitty and then they won't have a way to trade it in and get some of their money back. I personally love getting used games. It gives me the chance to play games that came out over the past couple of years I wanted to play but didn't have the $60 for the new game.

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Comment #15 by DMCV
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:30:13 AM
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Yea, It'l work out much cheaper for me because I'l buy a PC and pirate all my games, he is right that would be awesome.

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Comment #16 by DMCV
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:33:50 AM
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(sorry about double post, cant edit comments) I buy almost all of my games brand new, but do you know where I get the money to do that? FROM SELLING MY OLDER GAMES, and I know I'm not the only person who does this. These people should not bite the hand that feeds them.

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Comment #17 by EmptyFibers
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:38:01 AM
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...I can see the developers point of view, at least in regards to a business perspective. Its all about making money, every business is that way and if you want to argue that, well you have never owned a company.

However, I do not support this in any way! If this happens, with all honesty, I am finished gaming. I'll go back to playing board games and chess. I don't want to keep a:ll the games I buy, nor not be able to allow my friends to borrow one.

If this becomes a staple, I have a sneaky feeling it will severely affect the gaming industry.

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Comment #18 by yewjhin
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:44:44 AM
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Well hello Crytek, I didn't even considered buying your games when they were at bargain bin-second hand prices. So sorry. Pfft

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Comment #19 by Im567
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:46:12 AM
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He should be happy that we don't pirate the games like music, videos, movies, applications, games of every other console etc etc... really, shut up.

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Comment #20 by kid_Jump94
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:46:12 AM
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My thought is that it definatly wont happen! It comes to mind what you would do with the game once you had enough weather you've spent 1 hour or 100, i mean do you keep it forever seeing as its priceless now, or do you just put your hard earned money you spent on it in the bin. For a better argument, such store like Game and Gamestop etc, wont selve any new blocked games as most of there revenue comes rrom used sales. So this is really companies being greedy, if your games good you'll get the million more or less copies sold, if its not, it wont. Like @1 said games are released full price, were some say Skyrim, you can get 100 hours or so, yet a game like Thor, you could probably get 5 to 6 hours at the most, and Thor's not that good so clearly you cant offer full price of a new game when its like this, so f you Crytek!

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Comment #21 by Terminator
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:56:00 AM
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Goodbye Crytek, you've just lost yourself another customer and I imagine more will follow. Developers and Publishers have got to accept that the pre-owned market is here to stay. IF this ludicrous idea of a pre-owned games lockout is introduced, the next gen is going to crash and burn almost immediately and the amount of piracy is going to go through the roof!

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Comment #22 by chris21
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:56:31 AM
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If I couldn't sell my games on and had to keep them for life I would wait for a big price drop and I wouldn't be buying anywhere near as many games, so if you think that it will make you more money then think again.

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Comment #23 by DragonSaiyan28
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:02:16 AM
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@19 pirate games will happen if this go's though i hate the idea of being forced into buying a new game say if i got 100 pounds i could get 20 or more pre-owned games instead of 2 or 3 at normal retail price if the PS4 has the pre-owned lock i will not buy it and Sony will lose more fans than the PSN outage last year i have been a Sony customer for over 15 years i hate to leave because of this LONG LIVE PRE-OWNED GAMES

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Comment #24 by shatulance
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:06:08 AM
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I heard a rumour that ps4 will lock games to a and my girlfriend have our own profiles on one console, would that mean we'd have to buy 2 copies? Would the online passes stop as well ?

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Comment #25 by BrokenLegacy--
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:07:04 AM
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Not going to happen. Preowned games are to important to be destroyed.

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Comment #26 by shatulance
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:10:54 AM
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Why don't the developers look into a buy back scheme? Where they sell your Pre owned games?

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Comment #27 by Omnisam
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:12:03 AM
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I hope this guy falls down the stairs and breaks his spine. They make enough money but they always want more! Cheeky sods started with online passes and now this, burn in hell.

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Comment #28 by NARUTOFOXRAGE
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:16:03 AM
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why can't they just reason with the companies that sell used games so that they can share the profits? is it really that hard? i usually hate selling my games but damn, if i'm running low on cash and someone wants one of my games then i'll just sell it. they seem to only think that the financial crisis is only affecting them and not us well newsflash, when you guys have expensive houses and cars and go out to eat everyday thats the good life we as gamers and consumers allow you to have, jerks lol

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Comment #29 by pkrockin86
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:17:39 AM
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Time to play the devils advocate!

If you think about it this gen has been terrible to developers. Look at how many studios have shut down in the last 5 years. We game in the age of first person shooters because they are the less risky investment. One bad game in term of sales can doom a company. So even tho I may not like the idea of days of borrowing a friends game, this just seems like a way to give developers more of a chance to keep their company up and running.

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Comment #30 by YurtleTehTurtle
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:22:30 AM
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I don't generally buy used games however I do trade in most of my games so probably one in three games I buy are as a direct result of trade in. If they took away this market it would immediately reduce the amount of new games a year I buy by a third, can the devs/publishers not see the bigger picture here.

I understand used game sales will damage income but they need to look at how other markets deal with this rather than making stupid comments.

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Comment #31 by Resurssikysymys
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:27:07 AM
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I was really thinking to buy Crysis and Crysis 2. Somehow this made me forgot it. Maybe I'll go and rent a book or movie.

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Comment #32 by TheAlgebraist
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:29:22 AM
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I wonder how many game developers drive used cars.

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Comment #33 by AndyBeans
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:39:05 AM
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This is not in the best interest of developers, it is anti-competitive, anti-consumer and is purely aimed at maximising publisher revenue. This will stunt the games sector beyond recognition; many console gamers will move either to indie gaming either on mobile or PC platforms to follow the proper, creative developers who aren't constrained by greedy publishers. I predict that either Sony or Microsoft will back down to curry favour with the disenchanted.

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Comment #34 by JackC8
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:45:51 AM
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It would be fine with me if they blocked used games - but of course these are only rumors and everything imaginable is being put out there, citing unnamed sources, as a "rumor". I always have to laugh when people say that used games are the only way that some people can afford the hobby - I buy almost all my games for about $10 - $20. Brand spankin' new. It's called "waiting until they hit the bargain bin". I have to laugh even harder when people who buy all their games used threaten to quit buying games, as if they're actually contributing anything to the industry in the first place. No, you're not.

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Comment #35 by vincentdante
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:46:49 AM
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Well I'v already decided the Wii U will be my primary console next gen anyway. So I'm not mad. I'll get a PS4 eventually when it goes down in price and has enough games that I like. Well unless said games are no where to be found thanks to the lack of a pre-owned market :x

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Comment #36 by shatulance
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:47:33 AM
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If this is the case I'll just wait till the new consoles can be hacked. I haven't bothered with the 360 or the ps3 because the preowned games I buy make it easier for me to play...I still buy new games as well but if they lock the games and they hack the consoles then I'd have to resort in back ups, and how much do developers make from pirate games? And if everyone takes this stance then we can kill a giant, just like we did with the Dreamcast :)

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Comment #37 by diskdocx
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:48:43 AM
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For years the whining was over piracy, illegally downloaded games, rental games. These things were to blame for the game devs not making enough money.

While the 360 was hacked early on, for most practical purposes the PS3 remains resistant to piracy. Retail rental is essentially dead in North America at least (RIP Blockbuster) and they have added online passes to bring in extra money.

Have studios closed? Absolutely. Did they not understand the concept of global recession? Businesses all over have closed and downsized.

As many say here, the trade in of games generates new sales. Even if you don't buy used, eliminating second hand sales will decrease new sales.

The auto industry has been as hard hit as any in the recession, but never once did they complain about used car sales. They are smart enough to realize that welcoming your trade in will encourage you to buy a new car.

But I guess another desperate entertainment industry running out of excuses for poor performance has to blame someone.

Heaven forbid they should improve the quality of their product.

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Comment #38 by shatulance
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:52:20 AM
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I think cliffy b drives a ferrarri too, so the industry can't be doing that bad. I can't afford a ferrarri on the measly £14k a year I get

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Comment #39 by wheatley
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:54:50 AM
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Ok, I get that the pre-owned market is a problem for game developers. But is it such a crushing blow to them? A crushing blow will be that every game you have to buy new, so I'm not paying £40/$60 for every title I would want, simply could not afford it. Also trading in old titles eases the strain on my wallet as well, so that will be gone. So I'll likely only get a couple of titles a year on day one, and the rest will be bought when they are WAY cheaper.

If developers are wanting to see better sales when going into the next gen, maybe price games on a sliding scale. When Terminator Salvation and Skyrim can both be released at £40/$60, you've got a problem since one is 100hrs plus adventure, and the other is a 3hr shitfest.

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Comment #40 by ZombieHunter13
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:55:03 AM
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screw them, what about the families in which you have multiple people playing on one console?
do I have to buy the same game twice so me and my girl can play one game??
come, that's completely unfair, illogical,....

if that's gonna happen, then I'm going to find myself a hacking course to crack it all, because there's no way in hell I'm going to buy a game twice just so me and my girl can enjoy it both

or they should be able to make it work that me and my girl are in the system as living under one roof and remove that block for games shared between our accounts

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Comment #41 by nintendo64X
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 07:55:56 AM
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From a business prospective I can't blame them, game sales pay their wages/supports more of a series being made.

For a general consumer this is bad, means we don't get to buy our second hand games, no more saving money!

...but if you are an idiot who goes to gamestop/ebgames then what saving, only games waaaaaaaaaay past their play-by-date are "cheap", say bf3 second hand, from $90 brand new to (theoretically) $80 second hand...unlike bionic commando which I can grab for $22 but it's not even worth that ><

Which is why I buy from dedicated pawn shops and aim for $30 or less unless the game is very deserving, and has dlc I can purchase later to support them

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Comment #42 by shatulance
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:02:50 AM
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It's bullshit that developers don't make money from Pre owned sales....on disk dlc and online passes both create income from preowned much development time goes into making an unlock key that gives you content that is already on the disc so incurs no extra development time therefore any dlc sold in this way is pure profit.

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Comment #43 by weephilymcvey
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:04:19 AM
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understandable sure...but next-gen can go fuck themselves if they block the pre-owned market!

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Comment #44 by MD_91
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:05:03 AM
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This moron will have a lot less people playing his games if used games are banned.

I rarely buy brand new games and when I do it's usually funded by selling old games, I'll have no problem waiting 6 months for the price to drop and then buying a game if it has to be new and he'll be able to enjoy smaller profits.

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Comment #45 by Banacheckfps
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:05:38 AM
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You really think Sony or Microsoft would block second hand games from their consoles, kowning their console sales would sky-dive, I think not It's a rumour and that is all it will stay a rumour.

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Comment #46 by Chrissycooza1
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:06:05 AM
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LOL well stomping down on preowned games is really put into perspective when I tell you all I just bought Crysis2 Nano Edition off my mate today... soooo Crytek do you want me to give it back due to its secondhanded-ness?

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Comment #47 by Dragonclaw91
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:07:44 AM
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Unfortunate we just have to wait and see.
Anyway, i just stick with my old consoles, there are alot of games i did'nt play, so i can always resupply until they make the right decision.

Just like in the comments above, in my oppinion, i buy games from experience with the used games, when i like them. Mostly i buy them + i buy games related to the same gameplay/developers.

If they take that away, i don't think it will sell well.
Because i won't throw 60dollars/euro away just to see if this game will be a succes or a disapointment.

In the end i don't like it at all.

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Comment #48 by SweGabe
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:11:01 AM
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Its disgusting how greedy these developers are getting...
They're only thinking about how to make the next quick buck, but not thinking of this would affect us paying for everything.
Pre-owned blocks would destroy gaming, just imagine what hell you'll have to endure if your console breaks, sorry, all games you had for it suddenly doesn't work anymore and you have to buy new copies!

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Comment #49 by Jimbo76
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:12:08 AM
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what kind of reaction does this guy thinks he is gonna get over this? fucking idiot.

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Comment #50 by xX_shoemaker_Xx
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:15:59 AM
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thank you for deciding whether i would buy crysis 3 or not! fucking douche bags! nothing like companies deciding during one of the worse world wide depressions in recent history, that now is the time to try and fuck everyone. you know all that is going to happen is they'll block used games, and then raise the price of new games cause there's no other option. i smell lawsuits rising if they do block used games.

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Comment #51 by Draco416
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:20:14 AM
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I'm gonna buy Crysis 3 used.

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Comment #52 by ReVision92
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:26:13 AM
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@51 hahahahaha nice!!!

So stupid. I'd be very satisfied with my PS3 if this ever happens.

Hopefully only one does it. That way the other one just gets BURIED

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Comment #53 by dda1996a
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:27:44 AM
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I dont sell my games back but over half of my games i bought used. If they do this, no buy

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Comment #54 by dellboy81
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:30:20 AM
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at #40 i would hope the locked to one psn id would be wrong and it would be locked to one system - that would make it a little better.

but i cant blame the guy for applauding it, why wouldnt he? its more money in his pocket to make another bad crysis game.

if they do this - and i think they have to if microsoft are doing it, then ps4 system and game sales will hit rock bottom.

now if this all leads to making games digital only and it will cost only £9.99 for fifa 14 or modern warfare 4 then imagine how many more people would buy a game - they would get more than 4 times the usual, so they would make more money with super cheap digital prices - lets face it there is no money lost in distribution or putting discs together. people wont be too bothered if they only lose a tenner on each game when finished with it.

the fact is this wont just end pre-owned games, it will end retail discs.

im not even fussed on the non backwards compatibility really - yes its a shame as all other consoles have gone with it, it just means i have to keep a ps3 tha id usually sell to cover some cost of a ps4. as it is i have no more space for another console, so it seems the new xbox and playstation will not be purchased by me if it means having to store the older systems away if i fancy playing a ''retro'' game like uncharted 3. at least the current gen games can be bought and resold at the moment and that wont change. the preowned business will still be there for games up to the ps3 and 360, just maybe not beyond. its not like they can block ps3 games on the ps3 can they.....or is that a psn update waiting to bite us?

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Comment #55 by neahcrow
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:30:36 AM
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Who is going to be buying Crysis 2013 anyway? It looks terrible. The 2nd game was absolutely horrible- only the first half of the first game was good.

I buy games two ways- release date on amazon when they are offering 10 to 20 dollars credit. Or new on amazon when they get cheap. It's rare I buy a game on ebay used anymore bc it is usually always cheaper on amazon. With that said I sell my games on ebay or trade them back into amazon so a used game block would kill me as well.

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Comment #56 by ReVision92
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:30:44 AM
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i like how they think it will cause a MASSIVE boost in game sales!


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Comment #57 by dellboy81
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:33:50 AM
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@#52 - if one does the anti-preowned and the other doesnt, it wont be the one with the lock that fails, it will be the one that doesnt. thats the sad situation as the big developers will just make all the top titles for one system only. imagine the big two (fifa and call of duty) only available on xbox and not ps4. it wont take long for the ps4 to be finished.

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Comment #58 by Callam001
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:34:46 AM
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it times like these i wish annoymous would wreak havoc on those twats

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Comment #59 by jqtaxpayer
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:40:28 AM
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These people really have their heads up their asses. Everything I've heard about the next gen of consoles has to do with the many ways it's going to fuck over the consumer and nothing to do with an increase in quality over current-gen consoles. Well, looks like the PS3 just might be my last console.

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Comment #60 by SoPoF
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:41:11 AM
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Crytek are such proles. 'Nuff said about them.

I still wonder why games companies believe some miraculous magic rules apply to them in contrast to the rest of the enterprises on the planet entitling them to forbidding their products to move on to the second hand market. I also wonder how games companies have become this big despite games having pretty much been copied like crazy in the early days and still today, to a degree, and them suffering so much from the oh so hurtful used sales.

Anyways, I think consumer rights are still of some value. We'll see how a console blocking used games will do on the market. Personally, I'd not get into it even though I only very rarely buy a game used. I know whose games are going to be bought used, if at all, from now on, though.

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Comment #61 by silverwolf40
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:44:52 AM
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I'm pretty sure the reason games are $60 when they are released is to compensate for losses due to used game sales. If they do away with used game sales it could lower the prices of new games. It's a stretch but could be a possibility. I'd much rather buy new anyways. There's just something about opening a game for the first time, that new game smell..... =D

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Comment #62 by SurfacedDevil
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:51:20 AM
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@61 exactly, even though i would welcome the pre owned thing, because, we must support the ones making the game, so that they can more games, it would be like this: You loved TES: Oblivion, but if everyone just had bought it for the lowest price possible, there would'nt be a TES: Skyrim, therefore support the freaking developers.

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Comment #63 by shatulance
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:52:57 AM
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@62 selling horse armour payed for skyrim

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Comment #64 by menace soda
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:56:33 AM
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you know what else is "awesome"? buying and selling used games. fuck any developer/publisher who blocks used games.

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Comment #65 by Pickles
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:57:24 AM
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unless they reduce the price of new games on release alot, they would be loosing more money if this ever happens.....

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Comment #66 by Craigimuss
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:01:45 AM
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If I pay £30-£40 for a game and it's not my cup of tea or I get bored of it; then I should be able to sell it. What about games that become hard to get or vintage in time that you can't buy new? I guess you just never get to play them. All this is, is greed. People will be driven to pirate more and more games; which will ultimately cost the industry more than abolishing pre-owned games. The Vita was hacked in no time at all. Sharing games is and has always been a great thing and I for one will not be buying any release day games unless I know I will WANT to keep it when finished.

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Comment #67 by neahcrow
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:03:56 AM
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@61. There won't be a new game smell anymore. Everything will be a download soon. Especially if they ban used games. That's the easiest way to do it.

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Comment #68 by nightdog
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:05:31 AM
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Pardon me if my coughing in a stage-voice "bullshit" under my breath is what you think you heard. Just a cough.

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Comment #69 by AnCafe14
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:14:16 AM
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If getting rid of used games makes the base price of games like $30 bucks then im all for it, otherwise, just make a 5 dollar fee that goes to the developer of the game for activation of a used game

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Comment #70 by mjfan97
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:16:20 AM
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Just another company making up bullshit excuses to fuck us other. Why don't they just say they don't care instead of making up these excuses that are going to get ridiculed? It's honest and a better reply. Crytek have just lost another costumer and I agree with a lot of the opinions voiced above me.

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Comment #71 by GOWboyT
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:23:27 AM
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@4 Lol if you want to get Crisis 3, just buy it used..that would piss them off.

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Comment #72 by Data
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:23:50 AM
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Nobody has said that you have to buy there product. If your going to complain, burn your console and join a woman group.

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Comment #73 by MikeyPooPants
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:43:34 AM
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I've never really supported the used game market myself. I mean, I absolutely don't look down on people who trade in or buy used, I used to trade in all the time. I just don't like how it only supports the store you're buying from and not the people who actually made the game... Especially considering how you only get a few dollars for a game that they then turn around and price at 5 dollars bellow the MSRP.

But what really bothers me about the concept is that I won't be able to bring games to say, my brother-in-laws house to play with him. He has a wife and 3 kids, and can't run out and buy every game that he might want to play, where as I get 2-3 games a month.

But now with this, it sounds like i won't be able to hang out at my sisters house and play a game with my brother-in-law, which really pisses me off.

The online passes are bad enough... But now this? If they find a work around, I won't mind it as much. For instance, if the game gets tied to your PSN/Live account, and you can sign in with multiple accounts on 1 console.

I don't really care for the attitude of developers regarding the matter either. Ive seen a few weigh in with the same attitude that seems like they are basically implying they feel like theyre customers are assholes for participating in used games.

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Comment #74 by shaunnn191
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:51:11 AM
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@72 THEIR*

And no offense, but if you support this Højengaard guy you're an idiot. There's nothing good can will come out of this.

I think I'll be renting/buying pre-owned/avoiding Crytec games in the future.

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Comment #76 by MTURNER1985
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:56:53 AM
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Guys the internet is a wonderful thing and could be used in so many ways including boycotting the sales of certain things in protest and to get your point across to these greedy bastards.

Let me explain.

Back in 2009 a lot of people started to get very upset that the XFACTOR finalist (UK) always got to number one in the music charts for Christmas so they decided to boycott this by the use of some very successful FACEBOOK campaigns. It was massive success RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE Killing in the Name sold over 500,000 downloads moving 50,000 places up the charts to clinch the NO.1 spot for Christmas that year.

How many people through-out the world loves gaming but can’t afford to buy every last game brand new? There’s millions of people!

Since the turn of the year I’ve bought 5 games brand new, and at least 15 used or brand new via trade-in credit!

Hypothetically speaking let’s say Sony and Microsoft decide to include this "pre-owned block" to their next gen consoles. There’s not only going to be millions of disgruntled gamers through-out the world but there is also going to be a lot of gaming stores who make a lot of revenue buying and selling used games losing revenue!

Taking a stance and boycotting the sales of the next gen consoles wouldn’t be that hard of a thing to achieve.

Create a website.
Campaign on various gaming websites.
Create a Facebook page.
Get the companies that make money by selling used games on board.
Take a stance!!!!

Do you realise how much money Sony and Microsoft could lose by the use of some very simple campaigning online? MILLIONS!!!!

Crytek choose your world carefully because it wouldn’t be too difficult to boycott one of your upcoming games!

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Comment #77 by Ridley
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:01:48 AM
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If this is true, I would expect government intervention. The used game industry is not small, I would expect to see lobbing for laws against the prohibition of selling something you own. The used game industry employs 10's of 100's of thousands of people. I don't expect them to accept this without a fight, if it is true.

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Comment #78 by HuDaFuK
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:03:10 AM
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This is pretty ridiculous, most of all because it's such a blatant money-grabbing exercise.

I'd love to say "boycott these games!" but you can bet most people will bitch and then go out and buy them anyway, especially if it's on a new console.

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Comment #79 by shawnthaboss
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:11:22 AM
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some1 needs to make a campaing like 76 said if they keep the crap they say now then im done with everything about gaming me and my friends borrow every game we wanna play from eachother and now there gonna put an end to that I DONT FUCKING THINK SO so everyone that joins the campaign keeps with ps3 and xbox360 untill the no used games shit is over and if it doesnt stop then no one that joined the campaign wont buy a next gen console or any games from develepors hwo support this

and for you crytek i hope you do an interview in what you appoligise for what you said or you will lose allot of customors including me

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Comment #80 by wrathion
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:15:21 AM
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I am looking forward to the next-gen Consoles.
That is how it should be. And you all could just wait a few months until the price drop. And everyone will be happy...

Try the PC and see if you can return a game which u already have registered.

I totaly support how Crytek feels. A new game sold is good for them, pre owned game not that good and a rented copy NOT GOOD.
They want to survive and make games to us all.

So either you skip or live on with the new Next Gen consoles or just give up playing.

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Comment #81 by jday222
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:16:08 AM
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I can't wait till they block used gaming sales. The industry will be much better off. All of you complaining its BS. Look how many companies have closed their doors. OR we get the same game rehashed every year e.i. COD, AC series.

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Comment #82 by MikeKeese
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:28:29 AM
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No used games=no console sale for me. Unless new games got to 10 dollars on a consistent basis and started at around 40 max, it would never be worth it for the lackluster games of today

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Comment #83 by DRplaystion3
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:36:09 AM
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anytime a store buys games for their stock where does that money go? Oh yeah to the devs, these a-holes are making money even on the unsold copies because department stores already bought them. So please, just shut the hell up I have no sympathy for you guys

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Comment #84 by WINAS3
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:45:53 AM
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What little respect I had left for Crytek is now gone...

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Comment #85 by JoBot 8000
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:47:49 AM
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Blaming the pre-owned market is a poor attempt by most devs to detract from the issue that their game is simply not good enough to keep. Most games are over in 6 hours and rely (rather foolishly) on MP to extend the games lifespan. That's all well and good until those same devs decide to shut the servers down.

Put more in your games, develop them for longer and stop blaming the fact that people want to sell something they think isn't worth keeping. I've kept a lot of games that I love, because they are worth it and I can say this generation of games, I have sold A LOT. Like seriously, I never even sold one of my PS1, PS2-era games. What does that say?

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Comment #86 by FilmNoir7
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:55:49 AM
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Dear Crytek, before worrying about the " block " you should worry about your " shitty " game! If you would like people to buy your games new make sure they are worth the money you are asking for them

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Comment #87 by reverendrando
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 11:05:19 AM
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It will never happen. I mean what if the new PlayStation system blocked used games and the new Xbox didn't? I can definitely say in that situation I would be getting an Xbox. Since Sony has stated they will be releasing a new console before Microsoft, Sony wouldn't take that kind of risk without seeing what the competition has in store.

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Comment #88 by ReVision92
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 11:15:51 AM
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Yes i like that argument, but i think EA would rather keep with the $10 thing than lose a whole console worth of sales.

That is how i see the lock console getting burned.

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Comment #89 by ZACHSP8
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 11:20:45 AM
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I can't see this happening but if it did I wouldn't be buying and more consoles.

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Comment #90 by DragonReborn108
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 11:26:08 AM
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So we really couldn't so much as bring a game to a friend's house and play it then? Also, I may be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure game stores make most of their money off of selling used games. These companies need to think one tiny step ahead and think about how they will sell their products if most of them close. Regardless, they need to realise that in no other market does a company profit over a used product selling, it's how it works and they should just accept it.

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Comment #91 by douggreen
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 11:37:21 AM
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The point is economics is bullshit. Economists don't understand economics. The best we can do is common sense, a simple analogy; If it was illegal to buy a used car more new cars would need to be built but most people can't afford a new car. The quality of cars would have to be reduced so people could afford them, also people would be reluctant to buy a car knowing there is no re-sale value.

Quality and price will ultimately go down whilst new sales may increase, but not by as much as the developers hope. Such a scheme would massively hurt console sales, the developers would effectively be taking money out of Sony and Microsoft's hands. Microsoft and Sony are within their rights to sign a legally binding document stating that neither will offer a platform to developers who block used sales (effectively a union)

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Comment #92 by stamp37
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 11:40:41 AM
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im not going to buy a system thats gonna force me to buy all new games because not all games are worth the price tag that comes with it and this fool just wants to make even more millions than he makes would even be wise for sony OR microsoft to block used games alot of companys would go out of business and i think they would protest this n the first place, its wrong to out companys that support used games they would lose alot of money AND customers..just saying it be a BAD move for it to happen

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Comment #93 by hybriz
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 11:51:05 AM
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That is an idiotic idea to say the very least. Anyway, I think it's actually illegal to build something in an electronic device that can be resold.

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Comment #94 by Irish Pub Boxing
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 11:55:39 AM
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If they go this route, then we better see a decrease in prices. The majority of games are not worth $50 - 60.

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Comment #95 by TEXASBOI727
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 12:09:34 PM
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So the gaming industry believes that putting a "block" on used games will help devs sales? There in for a rude awakening!

Things Devs need to realize:

- If your game is trash, your game STILL won't sell even with the "block"
- Pre-order sales will drastically drop; people will just wait till your game hits the bargain bin.
- Word of mouth will be even more powerful between gamers; no more trying out a used game to get involved in a franchise. People will simply never play your games.
- Stores will stop carrying as many copies of your games, because they know they won't sale.
- Gamers will just stick to franchises they already like and not explore new games. Good luck trying to create new IP's and attracting new fans.

Isn't the customer always right:

- So i can't borrow a friends game?
- If my system crashes I can't play on my second owned system?
- So i can't sell something I own?
- $65 for a game when 90% of the games are truly only worth $35?

STOP kidding yourselves, you Devs will be the reason the industry crashes not the used game sales!

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Comment #96 by kingofirony
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 12:42:25 PM
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this makes the wii u very attractive.but so far neither Sony nor Microsoft has said anything about blocking used games.Devs already do it sort of with online passes.if crytek & ea plans on blocking used games,i'm done with them.

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Comment #97 by roza
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 12:51:19 PM
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Yo Crytek. I'm real happy for ya, and I'ma let you finish. But that is the most retarded idea of all time... OF ALL TIME!

This means game stores will go out of business due to no trade ins, which means less sales. It also means less people will buy the consoles, so even less sales to them. This idea is suicide and will destroy the whole gaming industry.

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Comment #98 by Blowy McPot
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 01:05:05 PM
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If the secondhanded market closes down, I go back to PC gaming and be a pirate.

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Comment #99 by abel1389
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 01:07:25 PM
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When I go to a used game store, the truly quality titles are damn hard to find on the shelf. Game developers simply need to realize that they need to up the quality of their products. They need to start making their games worth the $60 we pay for them. this sense of entitlement is ridiculous, and they need to realize that WE, as consumers, create the demand for their product.

I like the idea i'm hearing go around about publishers having agreements with used game retailers for percentages of used sales. sad that these companies can't see the one solution that benefits everyone.

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Comment #100 by Domi526
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 01:15:40 PM
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Yeah ... Sorry but no. I am not completely ready to pay $60 for a game I'm not too interested in. And even if I am interested in the slightest, I don't want to wait four months for it to drop $20 and another four months to drop to $20. This will lower the market one way or another.

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Comment #101 by AstroFlibble
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 01:32:04 PM
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I think if Sony, Microsoft, Crytek and other developers saw the massive negative reaction in threads/discussions/boards like this, then they'd at least consider not blocking used games next-gen. The effects on the gaming industry could be far worse than they are now. It also seems to me that the devs are seriously out of touch with the way people try out games (borrow, rent, ect) and the knock on effect this has on buying future games. I just can't believe that so many clever/talented people can be so fucking stupid (oh wait.. when money is involved it all makes sense)

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Comment #102 by sanchezz4387
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 01:34:59 PM
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Monopolies and dictatorships, that is what these companies seem to want but what they forget is it is us the consumer who decide what they can and can't get away with. This bullshit that has come out of this guys mouth has made me decide to never shell out another pen y to anythjbg related to crytek. It's our right to be able to sell things on, just as much as it is their rigt to sell us their products.

I'm utterly speechless at the lack of respect this company have for their consumers. I forsee poor crysis 3 sales on the horizon

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Comment #103 by AverySegaw
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 01:40:45 PM
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I could honestly live without the used game market as I buy most games new (but not full price mind you). But, I think that devs/pubslishers and used game stores should work out a deal, since if you'd actually read your manual, you aren't technically allowed to sell the product once you've bought it. Sharing with friends is perfectly legal, and if GameStop & company would give devs/pubs a resale share, then this problem wouldn't be news.

And Crytek, I bought Crysis 2, used, for a total of $2.14. The only one who profited from that sale was me. Almost like I got it...for free.

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Comment #104 by douggreen
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 01:44:32 PM
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The scumbag already gets money from 2nd hand sales, in a roundabout way. A new game has a re-sale value, so more can be charged for it new. The same monetary value generated from 2nd hand sales by private individuals is added on to the price of a new game. If games cannot be re-sold their price should drop by about 25%.

“because it doesn't work like that in any other software industries"
maybe not, but in every other industry when you buy something it's yours. I can re-sell a car, a CD, a house, my playstation, my cat, my clothes, food, my phone. Why do software developers think they still own the copy of software that you have bought from them?

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Comment #105 by SSWORM69
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 02:01:48 PM
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You cant be serious! If there's no pre-owned market, we wouldn't have Gamestop and people from Gamestop and other stores would lose jerbs.

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Comment #106 by Ice884
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 02:38:39 PM
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Seriously tho I know these companys need to make their money, but they can just strike a deal with stores like gamestop to actually get some kind of profit from used game sales, but to put a block on the system is bs. If I didn't love video games so much I would not worry about buying them, but I know that will just be impossible for me, but "Cry"tek lost my business by supporting this.

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Comment #107 by digiboy123
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 02:50:37 PM
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I seriously don't have enough money to buy every single game brand-new. I guess my library would be pretty small next gen. :

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Comment #108 by Blood_Runs_Cold
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 03:27:03 PM
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Like stated earlier, if something like this happens, New IP's are meat for the beast. The only games that will even come close to making any money are established games that are sure to make a profit.

But seriously, how many COD titles can they throw out a year, before even the COD sheep just stop buying?

If this whole used block thing happens, this is the future:

Sony/Microsoft lose sooo much money, they quickly bow out of gaming all together.

Nintendo continues to make billions selling it's infinite supply of cheap to make, throwaway, gimmicky games. A used game block will no longer be needed, due to developers BEGGING to make games for the last remaining console.

And before you ask, yes, I am from the future, and this is going to happen.

All joking aside, the price of making game next gen will no doubt go up, causing games to be more expensive. (think about it. PS2 games costed roughly 1-5 million to make. With a budget of 10 million a year, that would mean more games made per year. Now current games costing around 10+ million, that game better sell like COD cakes or shut those doors for good) With a no used policy, only a small minority of gamers will be able to keep the industry afloat, by purchasing SOME games on release day. This amount of sales will not be enough to be profitable for developers OR publishers, causing more and more studios to close, and more and more COD games to come out per year.

The Developer/publisher side of the indistry is eating itself. Even without a no used console being implimented, it's only a matter of time till the whole thing goes boom.

And in response to this problem, these companies keep painting themselves into a corner.

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Comment #109 by drkrZEN
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:04:12 PM
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lol Crytek, you so funny.

*goes and plays my used copy of Crysis 2 and $11 dollar copy of Crysis 1*

In all seriousness, I wouldn't be surprised if Crytek locks out single player portions of C3 with an online pass and, of course, the multiplayer. That said, I don't know how he comes off as saying second hand doesn't work in any other software industry... it works that was for movies, music and other mediums.

Then again, those other mediums aren't hurting his wallet, so he may not be aware of 'em.

Ah well, all I know is I'll definitely be pickin' up Crysis 3... for somewhere around $20 used just as I did C2.

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Comment #110 by brandaman69
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:37:04 PM
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this is gonna eliminate 1st day sales and all review sites are gonna get a lot more traffic and the worst part is nobody is gonna go out on a limb buying a game you don't know I never would of bought demon's souls yakuza 3 and many other games that are not AAA titles

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Comment #111 by douggreen
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:40:23 PM
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I picked up Uncharted 2nd hand 3 years after it came out. I loved it, I couldn't have bought it new if I had wanted to. I then immediately borrowed Uncharted 2, over a year after it was released, I'm not sure if you can get a new game that long after release. I then bought Uncharted 3 day one. I don't play sequels unless I have played previous installments. The moral of the story is without the used game market and the ability to borrow games, I would not have bought Uncharted 3. I bought a game 2nd hand numerous times and gone on to buy the sequel(s) new; dead space, uncharted, infamous, resistance, fallout, prince of persia, CoD, operation flashpoint and Birds of prey/steel. Without the used games market that's 12 new games that I would not have purchased, I cannot afford to take a chance on whether I will like a game or not. Without used games, I would buy less new games and so would many others- Great way to boost profits dickhead!

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Comment #112 by GR4V1G0R3
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 05:00:05 PM
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Crytek will always find some way to piss off their customers, I remember the day after I hot my copy of the original for the pc through the post when they released a statement essentially calling all us pc gamers pirates because they didn't get the sales they expected

Well I'll still play crysis 3, but probably used like I did with 2... We can all play the childish tantrum card crytek, but doing it professionally will cost you sales

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Comment #113 by JuggernautClone
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 05:16:41 PM
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This pre-owned games lock is a piece of shit, and I don't like it.

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Comment #114 by amoremorte
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 05:49:05 PM
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I'm not the least bit surprised these useless assholes are behind something as despicable as this, it's all money & no customer service for them this just proves that further

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Comment #115 by ArkonRhys
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 05:54:22 PM
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Sorry if someone posted this and I missed it but, I don't see the problem with pre-owned games and if the companies want to recoup some loss they can just charge for certain aspects of the game, e.g. Batman = you can buy Catwoman DLC which comes free with new purchase. Another e.g. you can buy online passes if the one with the new purchase was already used. There are ways they can profit off of pre-owned sales and already do so.
I think the views of SOME companies are a bit off kilter and overall the backlash from doing something like this would be so immense in the long term, see reasons above :)

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Comment #116 by ArkonRhys
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 05:57:02 PM
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Think of the hit to companies such as "Blockbuster, LOVE film" in the UK, they would loose huge sales off of these people as they wouldn't be allowed to rent games anymore.

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Comment #117 by SUM1SLY
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 06:49:56 PM
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to start of i just want to say that i've had 16 ps3 since the ps3 came out.i have 119 games on my shelf if i payed £50 for every game the cost of the games i have on my shelf cost 119x50=£5950 and thats without games that i have sold on and the cost of the 16 ps3s i've had also thats without all the downloaded games i own and all the dlc for all the games to.right if the next gen games cost £70 so 119x70=£8330.right now i have 4 ps3s that wirk in my house so if i have to buy the same game for the 4 different ps3s i have in my house that £8330 jumps to £33.320 and thats just for the 119 games i have on my shelf that's no dlc's and not the cost of the ps4s or downloaded games.there is no way in hell i will buy games like i have this gen next gen £33.320 is a lot of money.i see a lot of selfish people on here saying i buy my games now so it doesn't bother me wtf this will effect everyone stop being selfish and think of other people with more than 1 people with more than 1 ps3 in there house sure you all must have m8s on the ps3 that can't afford new what you going to say to them fuck off because your cheap and can't afford games.if your not with the gamers at this point you with the companies, so you know the saying if your not with us your against us.

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Comment #118 by bmxnick76
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:16:02 PM
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This is complete BS. The only bright side is Gamestop would be gone. I hate that place. They can go jobless for all I care. I had a friend work there and he made min wage. You can do better at McDonalds.

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Comment #119 by Sifu
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:23:11 PM
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This is exactly why consumers should wise up and understand how giving up your right to sell could cost you dearly. Take note of the full blown retail games like Warriors Orochi 3 which is digital only in America. I call it testing the waters. I will be importing as I refuse to buy digital on games over $20.

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Comment #120 by Cobalt Demon
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:22:32 PM
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If this block is implemented in the next gen, I'm sticking to my PS3, because I am not supporting any console or developer that thinks only those who can easily pay for a game new should be able to buy their products.

This idea to block used games stinks of elitism to me, some of these devs must think only the wealthy deserve to play their games, I never had any real interest in the Crysis games, but I'm definitely not buying them now.

I hope sales for Crysis 3 are near non-existent because of this rather ignorant comment

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Comment #121 by Vegetano1
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 11:23:22 PM
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i buy a car,.. i can't sell the car,..
they allready got the full price for the game,.. buyer should be able to sell the game again,..

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Comment #122 by THE_BIG_DAVE
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 12:15:50 AM
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I buy 99% of my games new but a used game block will reduce my amount of purchases and pre-orders will likely stop all together. While I buy new I like that I can take a chance on a game that I'm unsure of since if I don't like it I can quickly resell it and get most of my money back. Without a used game market I'll wait for reviews and won't take chances on as many new ip's.

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Comment #123 by TheNeoReaper
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 12:21:28 AM
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Next gen consoles will fail so badly if the do this.

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Comment #124 by The Cosmic Suff
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 12:40:21 AM
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Gamestop employee's: They took our jobs!!!! DUKKA DERRR

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Comment #125 by Glyphsaiyan858
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 03:46:08 AM
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I completely agree with @23, anyone buying next gen consoles, if they really do have locks on them, will be supporting the idea. I will not. It's a terrible idea and not much of one. Crytek should shut their mouths and keep dumb ideas like this buried in their thick skulls. If any of you truly hate this horrible, you will not buy Crysis 3 or the next gen console if it has the blocker. Let Crytek dig their grave with this stupid thought of theirs.

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Comment #126 by SirBodom
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 06:15:14 AM
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So many trolls here.

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Comment #127 by diskdocx
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 10:49:52 AM
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Been thinking more about this - anyone else suspect that the reason Crysis 2 had the trophy for playing a multiplayer game 6 months after your first online match was to reduce trade ins?

I'm sure lots of people don't care about trophies, but anyone going for platinum would have to keep the game for at least 6 months.

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Comment #128 by Zero resistance
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 03:54:21 AM
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Crytek have just lost a load of customers by the look of it.

Plus lets take an alternative look at the "blocked game" manifesto:

You buy your new console and your happy. you also buy a copy crysis 3 (for example in this article). You install game. You play. OH OH your console breaks. Not only do you have to fork out money for a new console, you also have to fork out for a new copy of the game because your old copy is locked to your old console. Now on a scale of 1 to a 100 how pissed off would you be?

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Comment #129 by SoPoF
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 11:46:42 AM
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@128: I'd assume they'd link the game to your PSN iD or whatever equivalent other platforms have. Easy to do, just include an "unlock" code for the whole game like the online pass or day-1-dlc we already have.

Of course, they'd pretty much screw over those with no online connection at home.

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Comment #130 by wantsumcandi
Thursday, May 03, 2012 @ 06:58:03 AM
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Do they even realize that a lot of the new game purchases come from used game trade-ins? I guess they won't realize that until the gaming industry collapses in on itself. Fucking stupid greedy developers and publishers.

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Comment #131 by couchgamer85
Thursday, May 03, 2012 @ 05:28:55 PM
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I happen to disagree with the lead developer at Crytek. First of all we can all agree that games today just don't have the same quality they used to have. If some of these game designers thought a little more about quality than quantity the pre-owned market probably wouldn't be so popular, but nobody in their right mind wants to spend their hard earned money for games that are half assed and not completely finished in my perspective. Plus with the quality of more than half the games anymore nobody wants to buy something with no chance of being able to return it cause it bombed.

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Comment #132 by Big Vernon
Saturday, May 05, 2012 @ 07:32:00 AM
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Its just a wind-up folks

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Comment #133 by BjarneBiceps
Thursday, May 10, 2012 @ 04:26:57 AM
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come on ? why hate crytek, just because Rasmus Højengaard gives his view on the subject and it's a statement from crytek, doesn't make crytek any different than any other developer, who would like pre-owned to stop.

it is often considered a form of legal piracy.
I'm not saying that I agree, and that the pre-owned industry is part of gaming (kind of) - and has been around forever, and making such a block or forcing (as some developers already semi-do) having an online pass.

But in a tight industry, where making money is hard and a really rough business, that will go for this.

and get used to DLC only consoles in the future and better copy protection. it's here to stay and for a reason.

the fact that we still use media to distribute data is already obsolete and only used because of the consumers nostalgic reasons and their voluntary inablity to follow the development of data transfering.

but like with books and vinyl records, it should be out of here a long time ago, but it's still here. but surely in the game industry, this choice is not of an aestetic reason, more of a capitalistic and commercial.

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Comment #134 by hitman_hitchen
Friday, May 11, 2012 @ 02:29:10 AM
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I dont really buy second hand games often but i do sell 95% of the games i buy after i play them. If this bull shit makes its way go to the ps4 fuck sony im going back to pc gaming. They would still make money on that fucking online pass bull shit and dlc, isn't that enough for these greedy pricks.

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Comment #135 by Dark_Knight_4u
Monday, May 14, 2012 @ 01:30:47 PM
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This will not fly with me...

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Comment #136 by BaneMyExistence
Friday, May 18, 2012 @ 09:00:06 PM
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Hey Crytek, it would also kill the game rental industry. Gamefly couldn't rent out games. I played Crysis 2 on Gamefly and then went out and bought it because I liked it so much. After I initially played the demo, I thought it was a CoD clone; but Gamefly allowed me to see I was wrong.

Plus, though it may not be a popular idea for software companies most industries have some form of second hand: Used cars, thrift/consignment stores, used/antique furniture stores, even food that is still slightly in date gets shipped to other stores that sell it cheaper. And what of movies, those never get sold used. Oh wait, they do.

Used games allow those of us who can't afford the $60 you put on a game to buy it for less so we can pay $20 for an online pass and $30 for DLC that gives us 3 maps.

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