Red Faction: Armageddon
E3 2010: Red Faction: Armageddon Interview - David Abzug, Design Lead
Written Saturday, July 03, 2010 By Dan Webb
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Admittedly when I first heard that Red Faction was heading underground in their fourth instalment in the franchise, I was a little intrigued. Not because going underground is anything particularly amazing, but with a game that relies on its open-world environments and destructibility, I was more intrigued to see what that would mean for the game.

We caught up with Design Lead, David Abzug, at this year's E3 to ask those burning questions and more. Ever wondered why Red Faction took out terrain deformation? Well we now know... I do miss burrowing into the ground for no reason whatsoever though just because I could though.

Can you tell us a bit about the story and how it connects to Red Faction: Guerrilla?

David Abzug: Certainly. Red Faction: Armageddon is set two generations after the events of Red Faction: Guerrilla and you play the character of Darius Mason, the grandson of Alec Mason and Samanya from Red Faction: Guerrilla. In that time, there's been a lot of changes in the world. The surface has been devastated and destroyed in a recent war about 10 years ago; the terraforming has broken down completely. Huge storms are scouring the surface making it very hard to live up there, so the vast majority of people have moved below the surface into the mining tunnels underground, so that they can build a civilisation there. And recently on top of that, something has started happening below ground that nobody understands. Something is killing everyone it comes across and infesting the entire world. Darius Mason's job is to find out what has happened and to stop it.

How will moving the action underground affect the free-roaming destruction aspects built for the last Red Faction?

DA: It's definitely going to affect it, but the thing is that the tone and style of every Red Faction game has been different to the one that's gone before it. Red Faction 1 was set down in tunnels and was about the evils of the Ultor Corporation and fighting mutants. Red Faction 2 was on Earth and was about super soldiers and dictatorships. And Red Faction: Guerrilla was a more grounded story about revolt.

What we've done with Red Faction: Armageddon is build a story about survival and concentrate on the one thing that has been the keystone of all the Red Faction games – that being the destruction involved. By going underground, we've done a couple of things. You do find that there are quite a few missions on the surface, but by going underground, we've managed to concentrate the destruction more. Not only do you have buildings to destroy, but now you have structures that go up the sides of the caverns and stalactites hanging down, and huge lighting structures. Buildings that come down from the ceilings! When you destroy one of those, it'll fall forty feet before it actually impacts anything. So we've really managed to crank up the destruction in the world.

The other thing that we've managed to do is tell a much tighter story. A much more involved story. Darius Mason was born on Mars unlike Alec who was a fish out of water when he first showed up, and so you've got friends and companions that you meet along the way that help you and flesh out the world.

Do you think having the freedom to change the tone from game to game is what makes the franchise so successful?

DA: I think so. I mean, how often have you seen a sequel where your response has been, “Oh, it's just more of the same?” Well the one thing that's been part of Red Faction is destruction and we've even made changes between Red Faction 2 and Red Faction: Guerrilla going from GeoMod to GeoMod 2.0, so we've been playing around with that. And we've even added onto that in Red Faction: Armageddon. What we've set out to do from a design aspect was to come up with tools and weapons for the player that are cooler because of destruction. You'll have a weapon and that weapon is fun in and of itself. If you were in a box made out of 'I-can't-break-you-um', you would still have fun with that weapon. But the fact that you're in a destructible environment makes the weapon even better.

The obvious example is the Magnet Gun from the demo. It's a very simple weapon. It takes whatever you launch the first projectile at and sends it flying at whatever you launch the second projectile at. Very simple, very basic. You could picture yourself doing, 'launch the exploding barrel', 'launch the bad guy at the wall' – that kind of stuff. But with our game, because of GeoMod 2.0, you get to launch the side of the building. We don't have a 7/11 in the game, but if we did, you could launch it at something at a hundred miles an hour! Hit them with the convenience store! I have often taken a whole chunk of a building and taken out three or four guys in one fell swoop by basically pummelling them with twenty tonnes of concrete.

What would you say is the biggest development from a destruction standpoint? In Guerrilla, you could practically destroy everything, so how do you advance that?

DA: I think it's what we were talking about before. What we managed to do was take advantage – the phrase to use is, we stood on the shoulders of giants. The Red Faction: Guerrilla team put a huge amount of effort simply into the ability to do destruction to anything in the world.  Destruction is very hard, so some people with very big heads, worked on it for a very long time to get it working and get real physics-based destruction. Then they handed it to us and we got to say, “Right, what can we do with this that's fun?” So we've come up with things like the Magnet Gun or things like repair, to let you build, which we actually developed for RF:G's multiplayer. Things like repair that let you rebuild the world after you've destroyed it! That enables you to do new things, like repairing a wall after you've just jumped through it so that the bad guys can't follow you. Now you can repair the area around the tunnels so that you can rebuild a trap to collapse on them when they come after you. Now you can build yourself new Magnet Gun ammo.

We've made some tweaks to GeoMod 2.0 - which were primarily done by the same guys who built it in the first place – in order to make the destruction more integrated, more fun and more realistic. You know you're on to something good, when making it more realistic makes it more fun. But mostly what we've done is say, “How can we play with it? How can we make it more a part of the player's tools during combat rather than it just being part of the objective?” Mind you, we still have all of that. We have destruction targets where you'll go and blow this building up. But now in the middle of combat, blowing the building up helps you win the fight.

In Red Faction 2 you had more terrain deformation. Did you ever consider bringing that back for Red Faction: Armageddon?

DA: We've already said that the GeoMod 2.0 engine took a lot of effort to build and it's a very complicated engine. Adding actual terrain deformation into that would have increased the level of complexity dramatically, not to mention the design. If you can't border the player with anything, no matter what, it's a little hard to get them to follow the story. We have a very tight story that we're telling in RF:A. We've got a very involved story that we're telling and it's one of the things that we've expanded from Red Faction: Guerrilla. The amount of storytelling that we're doing and the amount of plotline involved and just the idea... I'm sorry, but the terrain deformation just wouldn't fit in well with what we're doing.

Red Faction: Armageddon has a more survival horror, kind of Dead Space feel, with a lone man facing an infestation of creatures. Why did you choose to go down that route for the game?

DA: Well, I would definitely say that we're not survival horror. Don't get me wrong, I thought Dead Space was a great game and I love the daylights out of it. But what we are is an action game in a horrific world. You saw the demo. You get into a fourteen-foot tall suit of powered armour and shoulder-bash your way through five of these things before you unleash a trio of rockets that track them down and kill them, then swap to your fully-automatic rail-gun to blast them into pieces. You're fighting massive hordes of enemies, using powerful weapons. I'd say what we wanted to do was tell that darker, more involved tale from a story, world and atmosphere standpoint, but we are still very much an action shooter game. Dead Space – one guy down the hallway is scary, and you've got to take it apart before it gets to you. Here, there's eight or ten of them swarming down the hallway at you and you're mowing them down in desperation trying to get them before they get to you.

Red Faction: Guerrilla had some fairly wacky toys like the Ostrich Hammer. Are you planning to introduce any new wacky toys for Armageddon?

DA: I'm trying to find a polite way to say, “I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to talk about that at this time. You'll have to wait.”

How will multiplayer tie into the new setting?

DA: We have made some large changes to how multiplayer works in Red Faction: Armageddon and we'll be revealing those pretty soon.

Red Faction: Armageddon will be smashing into stores in March 2011.


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Comment #1 by Slaphappy1996
Saturday, July 03, 2010 @ 01:02:38 PM
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Hope it doesn't suck.

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Comment #2 by bikiniman
Saturday, July 03, 2010 @ 01:16:39 PM
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@1 it can't suck... it's Red Faction! Can't wait for this game!!

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Comment #3 by DestroyraX
Saturday, July 03, 2010 @ 03:06:49 PM
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wow i hope its good RF:G didnt impress me with its multiplayer and the story was fun keep it up with the trilling story n beef up the multiplayer n i will get it :D

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Comment #4 by Aidman650
Saturday, July 03, 2010 @ 03:52:19 PM
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RF:G's multiplayer is great if played with friends. Private matches in it are the best. Unlimited THERMO ROCKETS!!!

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Comment #5 by curryhead
Saturday, July 03, 2010 @ 06:24:35 PM
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I hope this has a much longer story than guerilla cos the story on that was way too short. Completed it in a day

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Comment #6 by Reaper-1911
Saturday, July 03, 2010 @ 09:01:12 PM
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I cant wait! Love Red Faction!!!

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Comment #7 by HuDaFuK
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 07:14:06 AM
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Looking forward to this. Didn't like RF2 but Guerrilla was pretty good and the original ruled.

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Comment #8 by tigotimi
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 01:04:53 PM
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hoping this is going 2 be good=)

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US June 07, 2011
Europe June 10, 2011
Japan June 09, 2011

Resolution: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
Sound: Dolby Digital 5.1
Players: 1
Online Players : 2-4
ESRB: Mature
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