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Old 06-28-2013, 05:19 AM   #1
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Default Easiest way to beat Survivor+ *Confirmed*

7/31/14 EDIT: Currently testing/confirming this works for PS4, but there's no reason to think it wouldn't. I should have the confirmation by this weekend.

8/4/14 EDIT: I can't change the title of the thread, but you should be doing this on Grounded+ instead of Survivor+

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First, my apologies if this has already been reported or noted. I checked the forums and didn't see anyone mention this.

Ok, so some people seem to be having a bit of a trouble with their Grounded+ run. The main problem with Grounded+ is that supplies and ammo are VERY scarce. Well, I've found a way to at least solve that problem a little.

1) Beat the game on any difficulty.

2) Play and beat the game on Easy+ (This 2nd playthrough is to build up your weapons and Joel upgrades - which, if you're trying to get the platinum trophy, you'll have to do anyways. Also, I used this playthrough to get all the collectibles/jokes/conversations/etc). Now, it's important that you try your best to make sure you build up ammo and supplies during this Easy+ playthrough. Try to finish each chapter as close to FULL on ammos and supplies as you can.

3) After beating the game the 2nd time (and hopefully were full on ammo and supplies at the end of each chapter), do not start a new game+ again. When at the main menu, choose Chapters. Start from Chapter 11 (Hospital) and choose Grounded difficulty. After beating Chapter 11, quit to menu and chapter select Chapter 10 and choose Grounded again. Do this in reverse all the way back to Chapter 1. Once you have beat Chapters 1-11 all on Grounded, pick Chapter 12 on Grounded. Beat Chapter 12 and let the cutscene and credits run out. (You may be able to skip both, I'm not positive. I let them both play out without skipping them). Once you are brought to the main menu, all difficulty trophies that you do not yet have will pop. (I can confirm this as it just happened to me).

3a) If you're really having trouble, even with the reverse method, you can actually go in reverse order of the Subsections within each chapter.

Now, you may ask 2 question? Why build up ammo and supplies on Easy+ and why Chapter select in reverse? It's simple. You want to build up ammo and supplies so that when you start each chapter on Survivor, you'll be well-stocked on Ammo and supplies. For example, say you select Chapter 7. The ammo/supplies that you start out with will be whatever you had when you finished Chapter 6. Assuming you played on Easy+, you finished Chapter 6 with lots of ammo/supplies. So, even when you choose Chapter 7 on Survivor, you get all those supplies/ammo that you finished Chapter 6 with on Easy+. It shouldn't be hard building up ammo/supplies when playing on Easy+, as I was pretty much FULL of everything the entire playthrough.

Now, why select them in reverse? Once you beat a chapter on any difficulty, it saves your ammo/supplies and that's what you get when you start the next chapter. If you went in order, your ammo/supplies would just carry over each chapter and you wouldn't have very many. For example, if you pick Chapter 4 on Survivor, once you beat the chapter, it'll save your ammo/supplies and overwrite your ammo/supplies from the Easy+ run, and then once you pick Chapter 5, instead of starting full of ammo/supplies, you'll begin with much less because of your Chapter 4 run on Survivor. If you go in reverse, you'll start each chapter with the amount of supplies you have when playing the same chapter on your Easy+ run.

Lastly, if you are unsure if you've beaten certain chapters or sections within the chapters on Survivor, simply go to Chapter Select and highlight each Chapter (or section within) and it'll tell you the highest difficulty you have beat that section on.

I hope this helps you guys. It isn't perfect and you won't get more supplies, but starting each level with full ammo and supplies should make the Survivor run much easier.

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Old 06-28-2013, 06:15 AM   #2
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This really sounds good and it can help substantialy to lame people like me, who struggle with survivor.
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:46 AM   #3
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:29 AM   #4
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wow wish I did this , I just started my survivor+ playthrough today and am 55% done.

Its not bad with the glitch so I have Joel maxed out & the infinite shiv glitch is truly your best friend. I get to open every shiv door and cause of that I have a good amount of supplies/ammo.

On top of that I get to carry a modded melee weapon a lot of the time. Can't wait for the machetes to start showing up & modding them for 6 1 hit kills at a time.

The only times I died was when I didn't use ammo in the few situations where you pretty much have to.
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:39 AM   #5
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It's been posted like for a week and is in the trophy guide
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:53 AM   #6
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It's been posted like for a week and is in the trophy guide
Are you sure? I've been glued to that trophy guide for the past week and I've never seen any mention of the method I describe. If so, what part of the guide is it in?

EDIT: I double-checked and this method is definitely NOT in the trophy guide. You lied to me. How dare you? :-(

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Old 06-28-2013, 09:25 AM   #7
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Based on your descriptions, and what I know about how the game works, this should mean that on your Survivor+ backwards run, you won't just start each chapter with lots of ammo and supplies, you can also use as much of it as you want, even finishing each chapter with absolutely nothing left, and you'll still start the next (technically, previous) chapter fully equipped, shouldn't it?
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:42 AM   #8
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Based on your descriptions, and what I know about how the game works, this should mean that on your Survivor+ backwards run, you won't just start each chapter with lots of ammo and supplies, you can also use as much of it as you want, even finishing each chapter with absolutely nothing left, and you'll still start the next (technically, previous) chapter fully equipped, shouldn't it?
Yes, exactly correct. You don't need to worry about saving ammo/supplies going into the next chapter. Feel free to use all of the ammo you have.

I don't know why I didn't think of writing that.

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Old 06-28-2013, 12:04 PM   #9
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Chapter Selecting in reverse to clear Survivor is a clever idea

If you do this, ie Easy -> Easy+ -> Reverse Survivor, do you get the Survivor+ trophy?

If not I'll still prefer the Easy->Survivor+ run, saves me loads of time.
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Old 06-28-2013, 12:14 PM   #10
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Chapter Selecting in reverse to clear Survivor is a clever idea

If you do this, ie Easy -> Easy+ -> Reverse Survivor, do you get the Survivor+ trophy?

If not I'll still prefer the Easy->Survivor+ run, saves me loads of time.
Once you beat all chapters on Survivor, and then finish the game on Survivor, ALL difficulty-based trophies pop. You could do Easy, then Survivor+, but you'd likely still have to run a 3rd playthrough anyways, because I don't see how you could upgrade all the weapons with only 1 non-Survivor playthrough.

I would suggest Easy, Easy+, then using Chapter Select on the Easy+ game, doing Reverse Survivor. It makes the Survivor playthrough much easier, and you should be able to finish all upgrades on the 2 Easy runs. Always save the upgrades for the first pistol last.
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