fattybobattyyo Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Is there a chart or equation to determine your trophy level? Are certain trophies worth a number of "points" and you need so many "points" to achieve the next level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesico Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 A lot of people seem to agree on this point system: Bronze: 1 Silver: 2 Gold: 6 Platinum: ? Then theres to type of games: Smallscale games (usually, the ones you see on the PS Store): No platinumtrophy and a set amount of basepoints. Add-ons adds 6 points to a game, which means one gold trophy for example, or several combinations of silver and bronze. Largescalegames (all retailgames, but maybe also some big PSN games in the future): These games will have a platinumtrophy for completing all the other trophies and the toatal pointvalue of a largescalegame will be much higher than a smallscalegame. The higher level you are, the more it will take to advance to another level. An example, if you have no trophies and suddenly get all of the trophies in Uncharted, it would take you to level 4. When I started collecting Uncharted trophies, I were allready at level 3 I think, but after getting all the trophies for Uncharted, it only boosted me two levels in stead of three. Obviously, it's a certain number for each level, but those numbers are hidden, and will increase for each level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dowju Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) Platinum is worth 12. I was at 78% progress in Uncharted with only 1 Gold and the Platinum to go. Using the 1/2/6 point system I had 64 points to make that 78%. 64/.78=82, so 100% of Uncharted's points is 82. 82-64=18 so between the Platinum and the last Gold there were 18 points to go around. We already know that Gold is worth 6, so 18-6=12 points per Platinum trophy. Edited August 12, 2008 by Dowju Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderMike Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Kinda worked out here :- http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/super-stardust-hd/455-stats-2.html There's also a post on the home page, and I quote :- "It's amazing how a simple question like "How do you think the Trophies weigh against each other?" can springboard one of the most complicated conversations I've experienced in some months. The question triggered a little experiment that PS3T moderator HenryHSH spearheaded exploring a whole bunch of different people's stats and some fairly mental formulas. After a thread, making me get a silver Trophy at stupid o'clock yesterday and some pretty crazy decimal place theories, we settled on the following theory as per the Super Stardust HD Trophy list: 2 bronze trophies = 1 silver trophy 3 silver trophies = 1 gold trophy 6 bronze trophies = 1 gold trophy. Yes, we're aware that there is 1% left over using that formula (bronze = 3%, silver = 6% and gold =18%) but we have an inkling that the 1% may play a part in the future with the platinum trophy (for retail titles that is). Obviously these percentages won't work in retail titles like Warhawk (56 trophies) but the weighting of the trophies against each other seems logical." Posted By Webb Hope that sheds some light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattybobattyyo Posted August 12, 2008 Author Share Posted August 12, 2008 I appreciate the relative values for trophies... So nobody knows how those stack up against the trophy "level" progression? There isn't a chart that says you need "x" trophies to get to level 2, "y" for level 3, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesico Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Only Sony knows that and the amount of points you need for each level always increases. So what we need to find out what level 1, 2 and 3 and so forth takes, and then somebody thats good with numbers can try to find out if it's a percentage increase for each level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattybobattyyo Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 I leveled from 1 to 2 with: 11 - bronze 2 - silver That would be 15 "points" by the decided calculations... Anyone else keep track of when they crossed from 2 to 3? I guess we know the jump from 3 to 4 by just adding all the Uncharted trophies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesico Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Did you get exactly to level two or did you get slightly above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBroly Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Thing is though, like any RPG, the more levels you go up, the more trophies you need to gain another level. In Uncharted, a Gold Trophy is worth 8% (I was at 62%, went to 78% by beating Hard, giving me Normal's gold as well). So in that sense, a Platinum would be worth 14% of the overall percentage (based on 48 trophies of course). How does this help? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesico Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) Thing is though, like any RPG, the more levels you go up, the more trophies you need to gain another level. In Uncharted, a Gold Trophy is worth 8% (I was at 62%, went to 78% by beating Hard, giving me Normal's gold as well). So in that sense, a Platinum would be worth 14% of the overall percentage (based on 48 trophies of course). How does this help? I don't know. If you have gold and a platinum left, you will always be at 78% I think. It's at least true for Uncharted and Buzz. I'll try to figure out the point value of the Platinum trophy when I'm finished with Buzz. Edit: Only problem is that 78% on the Trophy Collection list could be anything between 78,00 and 78,99. After playing Buzz and Uncharted, I've figured out that the decimals are just removed. The number isn't rounder up/down. Edited August 13, 2008 by Pesico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattybobattyyo Posted August 14, 2008 Author Share Posted August 14, 2008 Pesico: It's actually a little over so it may be 14 "points" to level 2. KingBroly: I know that each level will require more points than the one before it, but if we know each of the milestones for the first few levels, we can try to find a pattern. Anyone: Do you know what trophies you had when you leveled from 2 to 3 or from 4 to 5? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gh05t El1te Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 (edited) I'm bang on level 3 right now no exp into level 3 at all with 30 trophies heres the breakdown Platinum - 0 Gold - 1 Silver - 5 Bronze - 24 Enjoy. Edited August 15, 2008 by Gh05t El1te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattybobattyyo Posted August 18, 2008 Author Share Posted August 18, 2008 Thanks for the info Ghost. With that info , here's what I've calculated for the first 4 levels (a 2nd order polynomial fit): POINTS NEEDED = 7.25x^2 - 9.35x + 3.25 Where "x" is the level you're trying to attain. I can edit this if someone can verify the jump to level 5. By this calculation, level 5 would take 138 "points"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesico Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 So if you put x to 5, it finds out how many points you need to get from 4 to level 5, or from 1 to 5? Great job if it ends up being true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattybobattyyo Posted August 18, 2008 Author Share Posted August 18, 2008 That's total points needed, not additional points needed after the previous level. 14 for level 2 40 for level 3 82 for level 4 ~138 for level 5 Can anybody confirm this? Are you anywhere near level 6 Pesico? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesico Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I'm not near level 6. Little shorten than halfway to level 6. Given up on Eden so I won't get any closer before other games gets trophies. PLATINEM only lacks a gold and a platinum to get all 110 trophies available and hes actually a little behind me. Don't think it's possible to get to level 6 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesico Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Well, you won't have to wait long as Warhawk is getting patched Wednesday. I might be desperate enough to play that. Don't like it at all, but in desperate times, desperate measures is required:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustContribute Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I might be desperate enough to play that. Don't like it at all, but in desperate times, desperate measures is required:P Is it actually getting patched Wednesday? I deleted my original post because I thought the information was incorrect. Someone on Playfire told me that and I just assumed he was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VelocitY 09 Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Is it actually getting patched Wednesday? I deleted my original post because I thought the information was incorrect. Someone on Playfire told me that and I just assumed he was right. next wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustContribute Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 next wednesday That's what I thought? I've only one day to get my Uncharted Platinum before I start on Warhawk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr1d Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 That's total points needed, not additional points needed after the previous level. 14 for level 2 40 for level 3 82 for level 4 ~138 for level 5 Can anybody confirm this? Are you anywhere near level 6 Pesico? Thanks. I can confirm level 3. I hit it exactly: Bronze - 20 - 20 Silver - 4 - 8 Gold - 2 - 12 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLevelUpx Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I'm currently level 4 with about 1 to 2mm left to fill in the progress bar, which I think it could only be a silver or gold. Trophy breakdown is.. 1 Platinum 9 Gold 21 Silver 50 Bronze. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattybobattyyo Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Thanks for the info dangly. That helps a lot. You currently have 158 "points" so I'm going to say the jump to level 5 happens at 160. Let us know when you cross over so we can confirm... Unfortunately that's not really close to what I predicted. I've recalculated the fit with a 3rd order equation: POINTS NEEDED = 1.9x^3 - 1.7x^2 + 21.3x - 15.6 Where "x" is the level you're seeking. That says level 6 will take 278 total points. I guess we'll have to wait until more games are patched to find out how close that is. Thanks again for your input everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattybobattyyo Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 There may be a simpler calculation if you disregard the jump from level 1 to 2. The other jumps seem to double... 40 to 80 and 80 to 160. That could mean the next jump is 320 total points, and that would mean a 1 level difference would mean somebody is twice (or half) as good as somebody 1 level above or below. That seems like an awfully big jump to me. I hope that trend doesn't continue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryHSH Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) There may be a simpler calculation if you disregard the jump from level 1 to 2. The other jumps seem to double... 40 to 80 and 80 to 160. That could mean the next jump is 320 total points, and that would mean a 1 level difference would mean somebody is twice (or half) as good as somebody 1 level above or below. That seems like an awfully big jump to me. I hope that trend doesn't continue... Yeah, I think you'll find that it's rounded. I've worked with decimals while figuring out the value of the trophies themselves but it was simpler than I thought. I would help, but I've been very busy these days. An easier way would be to measure the XP bar, and your XP progress and try to hit the 50% mark or 25% or 75%. I think that would give you better numbers. I'd like to suggest contacting JakeSS since he can capture from his PS3 to his PC (I think), that way it'll be easier to work with the measurement. I know it's not necessary but it might make it a lot simpler. I mean my whole point is that, with a percentage it would be much easier to figure out. And with measuring the xp bar and your xp progress you can find the percentage. Edited August 20, 2008 by HenryHSH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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