darkwarlord Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 complete ALC/THRONE on insane via SQUIRE. check it's ele, if it's 240~+ with over 20upgrades, it will cost you about 2-3mil to upgrade, but the sell value sky rockets to triple the amount. upgrade only ELE stat, if you do otherwise it will drop in sell value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakeslayr Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Yep, works like a charm. Got an 11 million sword for only 3 million invested. Thanks for the tip haha Edited November 8, 2011 by Drakeslayr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryfu Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 It's confirm. I've done it. However the official dd forumers r complaining coz it's ruining the game economy and asking for this to be patched. So if u wanna do it best get it done b4 the ps3 patch/updates come in case they try to change this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkByke Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Is this a way to boost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryfu Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Is this a way to boost? There are many ways to boost this game whether for mana or lvls. Not sure whether this is a glitch or not and also not guaranteed u'll get a weapon that. An turn into profit ( the stats r alwiz randomly generated) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwarlord Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 i think it's jus in the game mechanics, not really a "glitch", since like you said they are random numbers...jus turns out upping the ele to insane ammounts ups the value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryfu Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 i think it's jus in the game mechanics, not really a "glitch", since like you said they are random numbers...jus turns out upping the ele to insane ammounts ups the value. Well glitch or not, they're lobbying to patch this. The randomness I meant was when u get the item as not all the time u will get a lvl 23 item and above or with a high base poison Dmg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he1senberg Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 It's an exploit. They've already patched it out on the PC version, you can expect it to be gone when we get our first major patch. Get in on it to up your gear, pets, and get your banker trophy while you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnat_ Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Has this been patched in the v1.01? I haven't played yet, so the first post doesn't make much sense to me. Can someone explain the exploit in plain English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakeslayr Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Has this been patched in the v1.01? I haven't played yet, so the first post doesn't make much sense to me. Can someone explain the exploit in plain English? No, patch 1.01 was released something like a day after release and did not fix this exploit. And for plain english: Beating Alchemical Laboratory or The Throne Room on Insane will yield boss item drops that depend on your class. If you play as the squire, you are rewarded with Malificar's Rapier or Einhorn's Furnace Poker, respectively. He is saying that if you take these boss drops and upgrade only the elemental stat on it, you will see a large return on your money. I did some tests as well, items with low base elemental damage or low upgrade levels will not return much on your investment. I tried one Rapier with 145 base damage and 17 upgrade levels and I still made money, but only around fifty thousand mana. Don't upgrade things worse than 140/16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwarlord Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 you can do it with high5s too, but even 16 is WAY too low you need to look for 20+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yewjhin Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) Has anyone noticed that the Elemental DMG per upgrade level has decreased? If I recall it increased by 20% per upgrade level, but now its like less than 10%? I recently upgraded one weapon, and on the final upgrade it went from 7799 to 8255, which is only about a 500 point increase, that's like 8% only. My game version is 1.01, and I don't recall downloading any patches, so is this a Server-side patch? Edited November 28, 2011 by yewjhin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakeslayr Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) The increase on elemental damage is kind of an S shaped curve. It increases slowly, then very quickly, then it rounds off at higher levels. You will still be getting a sizable upgrade at high levels, around 500 damage, but don't expect it to climb higher than that increment. There has still not been a patch yet (apart from the day one patch). Kinda disappointed with the support so far, considering how much the portable platforms have been improved. Edited November 28, 2011 by Drakeslayr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthuritis Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I have a question regarding darkwarlord's mention of check the drop from insane alch labs. He said check the ele, if its over 240~+. What does the 240 mean? Does that mean the weapon has to start off with over 240 element damage? Or is it the combined physical and element damage. Do weapons even start out with that much element damage? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryfu Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Has anyone noticed that the Elemental DMG per upgrade level has decreased? If I recall it increased by 20% per upgrade level, but now its like less than 10%? I recently upgraded one weapon, and on the final upgrade it went from 7799 to 8255, which is only about a 500 point increase, that's like 8% only. My game version is 1.01, and I don't recall downloading any patches, so is this a Server-side patch? That's standard. The scaling is about 15% but maxes out around 455 per upgrade. This works for all squire weapons as they have the best scaling. The increase on elemental damage is kind of an S shaped curve. It increases slowly, then very quickly, then it rounds off at higher levels. You will still be getting a sizable upgrade at high levels, around 500 damage, but don't expect it to climb higher than that increment. There has still not been a patch yet (apart from the day one patch). Kinda disappointed with the support so far, considering how much the portable platforms have been improved. Yup ur right though it's actually 455 dmg. Upgraded enuff rapiers to notice this. Works on all squire weapons also like flame warders, moxies or even godly ones that has high elemental dmg and upg lvls. I have a question regarding darkwarlord's mention of check the drop from insane alch labs. He said check the ele, if its over 240~+. What does the 240 mean? Does that mean the weapon has to start off with over 240 element damage? Or is it the combined physical and element damage. Do weapons even start out with that much element damage? Thanks! Only for element dmg. Yes certain weapons start out this much. It is random generated but high chances. I got at least 220+ 80% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthuritis Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Ah. Great thanks, I guess I will be farming Insane runs of Alch Labs. haha. Yay for mana! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaze_the_beast Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I hear they patched this (true?) on pc, and if that is the case anyone know how much the weapons sell for now? If they still sell well I was going to stockpile them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkByke Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Can someone please explain this one. So I do Alchemical lab on Insane, survival? And then what, just pick up random weapon drops? Then upgrade weapon's elemental properties only? Who's weapon type, does it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Phantomizer Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Can someone please explain this one. So I do Alchemical lab on Insane, survival? And then what, just pick up random weapon drops? Then upgrade weapon's elemental properties only? Who's weapon type, does it matter? It's supposedly only the weapon rewarded for completing the level i think? I'm not entirely sure, but i know this works on pretty much ANY weapon with a high enough base elemental damage and enough upgrades. Mobile Moxie from No Towers Allowed on Insane is a good candidate for upgrading and selling for profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakeslayr Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Can someone please explain this one. So I do Alchemical lab on Insane, survival? And then what, just pick up random weapon drops? Then upgrade weapon's elemental properties only? Who's weapon type, does it matter? Step by step guide: 1) Play Alchemical Laboratory on Insane as Squire. Regular mode, no survival/strategy/challenge. 2) Kill boss. He will drop Malificar's Rapier. It will be added to your item box, you do not pick it up. 3) If the Rapier has 20+ upgrade levels, and 200+ posion damage you are good. 4) If it does not, sell it. It is not worth the investment. Go find a new Rapier. 5) Upgrade the Rapier to max, only upgrading only the poison damage (could cost up to 3 million) 6) Watch the value of the Rapier skyrocket (my highest is 11 million) 7) ?????????? 8) Profit Edited December 13, 2011 by Drakeslayr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryfu Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Technically any weapon that has a high elemental dmg and upgrade levels can be turned into a profit. So long as the elemental dmg is 150+ with upgrade lvls of 27+ (or a combination thereof) and you can make some profit with it already. Of course Malificar's Rapier is the best at this and nicely illustrated above. I've done it with flamewarders, mobile moxies, hi5s, ogre safety razor and even standard godly weapons with high stats. if u noticed mainly is the squire's weapons that are preferable though some of the other heroes weapon can also be turned into mana makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkByke Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Step by step guide: 1) Play Alchemical Laboratory on Insane as Squire. Regular mode, no survival/strategy/challenge. 2) Kill boss. He will drop Malificar's Rapier. It will be added to your item box, you do not pick it up. 3) If the Rapier has 20+ upgrade levels, and 200+ posion damage you are good. 4) If it does not, sell it. It is not worth the investment. Go find a new Rapier. 5) Upgrade the Rapier to max, only upgrading only the poison damage (could cost up to 3 million) 6) Watch the value of the Rapier skyrocket (my highest is 11 million) 7) ?????????? 8) Profit Thanks very much! I'll have to save up about 3 Million first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaze_the_beast Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Best one I got was 12,389,288. After grinding for the weapons for several days (stockpile) I have to say Einhorn's Furnace Poker is by far a better item to grind than Malificar's Rapier. It takes a little while longer to grind but they are consistently better in my experience. Try for yourself of course. Upgrading the projectile shot bonus on undead pets is crazy though, you can get it up to a BILLION lol. Wish the mana cap wasn't so low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaky_tiger44 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Does this work with all boss items or just those two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal_Jaws Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Upgarde Huntress weapons that have +700 fire rate and 25+ upgrades. Upgarde only the fire rate stat. It will exceed the Alch lab method. I saw a single blasticus worth over 30 million last night from this method... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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