CatNZ Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 just got them last night, and thought some people might appreciate a little help: since these intimidation opportunities are early in the game, they're better done with a new character. Make sure you have 2 Coercion skills (i.e. have 14 points in cunning), and around 16str necessary for intimidation check. Always save before you start a conversation, DO read the dialogue to see if you've succeeded, re-load in case you fail the check. list of people to intimidate for Bully & Menacing trophies: Lothering 1 - Farmer by the entrance, talk to him about Loghain, then intimidate him 2 - Merchant near the Chantry 3 - Doomsayer right outside the Chantry 4 - (speak to Sten in his cage first) Revered Mother, intimidate her to release Sten Redcliffe Village 5 - Dwyn the dwarf, break in the house and intimidate him straight away. 6 - Dwyn the dwarf, intimidate him into assisting the battle. 7 - Owen the blacksmith, intimidate him to unlock his door. 8 - Lloyd the bartender, intimidate him into assisting the battle. 9 - (ask Bella about the elf first) Berwick the elf, question his presence in town, then intimidate him into assisting the battle. 10 - (speak to Ser Perth first) Revered Mother Hannah in the Chantry, intimidate her to provide blessing. 11 - (get quest from Kaitlin in the Chantry first) Bevin, hiding in the wardrobe in Kaitlin's house. Intimidate him to tell the secret. 12 - Bevin, intimidate him again for the key. Lake Calenhad Docks 13 - Carroll, intimidate him to gain access to Circle Tower speak to the Mages' Collective Liaison by the Tavern, and pick up "Careless Accusations" quest Wooden Glen (a random-encounter scenario, on the way to Denerim) This encounter will only happen if you have "Careless Accusations" quest 14 - Adventure Leader To get Persuasive and Silver Tongue trophies: - Travel to Orzammar (via Frostback Mountains) - Find Zerlinda in the Dust Town district. She will give you "Zerlinda's Woe" quest. - Go to Tapsters Tavern and find Ordel. - Speak to Ordel, persuade him to take his daughter back, end the conversation. Ordel will disappear after the conversation. Leave Tapsters Tavern. Keep re-entering Tapsters Tavern and persuade Ordel until you get the Persuasive and Silver Tongue trophies! credits: Bully Achievement in Dragon Age: Origins and Easy Silver Tongued Trophy ! - Dragon Age: Origins - PlayStation.com Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_117 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 The persuasion one works with Ordel Turns out only needed 2 more successful attempts Thanks for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsarblandi Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 thanks nice find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrastas Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Nice info, I'll have to try that glitch for the persuasion one, I just got that quest last night but haven't done it yet. I'm assuming the persuasion and intimidation counts don't carry over into the next playthrough? I don't think I'll be able to get the 10 intimidation one in my current playthrough, I didn't succeed at some of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughdawg4 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Are you a warrior? You will get more in that playthru that are successful I noticed. There are more than enough attempts that you should be fine without a glitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrastas Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Yes I'm a warrior, but I didn't get the 5 intimidations trophy until after I had already gone through Lothering, Redcliffe and Lake Calenhad (all the locations listed above). There must be more than this for warriors, like you said, since I had a couple of Intimidation offers in Orzammar, which is where I got the trophy. I didn't boost the necessary skills early to make it easier, hopefully there are at least 4-5 more in the game so I can get 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughdawg4 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 You should be able to get enough if you do side quests. I missed a bunch early on and I easily got the trophy. I was really worried about getting 25, but there really is a lot of attempts. Worse case, try to aim for one set so u can ignore it the next time around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatNZ Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share Posted January 18, 2010 I noticed a lot of intimidation opportunities also came with the choice to persuade... and since it takes 15 more successes for the silver tongue trophy than menacing, you may have missed out a quite few intimidations while working towards silver tongue... those 4 trophies aren't that difficult, they will come naturally as you play through the game, picking up side quests, and talk until you exhaust all options... just need to pick up Coersion skills, as well as put points into strength(intimidation) and cunning(persuasion) as your character levels up ...and remember to read the dialogue, I have failed more often than I thought I felt compelled to post the persuasion glitch. it's not a fun way to get silver tongue, but I understand that sometimes people really don't want to include Coersion in their character builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrastas Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I got the 10 Intimidate trophy, so all is well. I've boosted my persuasion skills and all that, so I shouldn't have any issues with the 25 Persuade one now, I've been succeeding at every persuasion test now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsao01 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I noticed a lot of intimidation opportunities also came with the choice to persuade... and since it takes 15 more successes for the silver tongue trophy than menacing, you may have missed out a quite few intimidations while working towards silver tongue... those 4 trophies aren't that difficult, they will come naturally as you play through the game, picking up side quests, and talk until you exhaust all options... just need to pick up Coersion skills, as well as put points into strength(intimidation) and cunning(persuasion) as your character levels up ...and remember to read the dialogue, I have failed more often than I thought I felt compelled to post the persuasion glitch. it's not a fun way to get silver tongue, but I understand that sometimes people really don't want to include Coersion in their character builds. Wow nice find, thanks! I'll try it later sometime today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spratters53 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 i think the intimidate one would work as well on ordel. if you select the "what kind of monster throws his child out on the street" and then "(intimidate) if you dont take them back thats murder" im not sure if it does work though because i cant test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatNZ Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 i think the intimidate one would work as well on ordel. if you select the "what kind of monster throws his child out on the street" and then "(intimidate) if you dont take them back thats murder" im not sure if it does work though because i cant test it. I saw that option when talking to Ordel, but never tried grinding the intimidation trophies with him... it would be cool if you can test it out if that works then Ordel'll be able to take care of 4 trophies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lendea Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) How does it work for mages? I noticed in redcliffs that i can intimidate the kid in the closet for the key. Something that said You do realize I'm a mage and the kid goes okay i don't want my hair on fire. So my question is does magic replace strength in the intimidation parts? [edit] I hereby confirm that both the intimidate AND pursuade can be done at Ordel. Just keep walking in and out and either pursuade him or as CatNZ said if you dont take them back thats murder. Don't know if the follow up line has any influence but i sticked with the first answer. Hope it helped. [edit] I had expert Coercion str 14 mag 32 cun 12 my guess is for the intimidate with a mage it's mag replaced str. Edited January 9, 2011 by lendea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roozzzzz Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Thanks for the tip got both trophies on Ordel:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppitchfork Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 does anyone know where i can go buy some tomes that will up my coercion? i've tried doing ordel and i'm still too low of a level, and i don't want to spend the time to grind up levels to get the appropriate coercion level... thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naballiss Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 thx for the info got my silver tongue 2day only needed 2 more by time i reached Orzammar but still good info i am doing the intimidations now thx to your list should got quick then its just lvl mage 20 lvl rouge 20 damn o well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naballiss Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 have all those locations been confirmed cuz i got them all last nite and did not get the meanacing 1 thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppitchfork Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 ordel is confirmed. i got both trophies on him last night in one sitting. took 30-40 minutes with all the load times, but definitely worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naballiss Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) thx for the info http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/398/naballiss.png Edited January 16, 2011 by Naballiss wanted to ad my baner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naballiss Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 lol yeah got t he menacing not even 2hrs ago went from 1 of my orgin stories and went though the list didnt get it traveled to ordel did it 1 time and got it now the long part of lvling my rouge and mage 2 20 rouge shouldnt be a prob lvl 17 at alienage mage lvl 16 at landsmeet fuked that game up a bit and now looking for exp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarlequinPrncss Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 This makes my life so much easier. Sigh time for another playthrough. Take 3. *pout* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatNZ Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 This makes my life so much easier. Sigh time for another playthrough. Take 3. *pout* there's really no need for second or third playthrough... if you're lazy and don't mind taking advantage of glitches, there's a couple of ways to quickly level up to 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollntider Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 got the menacing last night thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapiciu Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 i can't find ordel in tapsters tavern can anyone help me ? The save i'm using is pretty far along , do i need to use an older one ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatNZ Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 i can't find ordel in tapsters tavern can anyone help me ? The save i'm using is pretty far along , do i need to use an older one ? Thanks have you spoken to his daughter Zerlinda? if she's there then Ordel must be in Tapster's tavern... since Zerlinda's the quest giver. my memory's really hazy on that, plus all dwarves look alike but think he was along the left hand side of the tavern.... if you're standing at the doorway looking into the tavern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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