Thalius Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I played and Platinum-ed the "original" game. My question is what are the differences, besides the wii u thing, between the two versions? And do you guys think is worth a rebuy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satnamji Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 My understanding (not 100% sure) is that You can use a Vita for the "second screen experience" It includes all DLC (pre-order bonuses as well?) Boss battles are reconfigured to allow use of stealth, hacking, etc. New Game+ mode allows you to keep all upgrades (not sure if that affects trophies) Improved graphics and AI I'd say if you're a big fan of the game (and have a Vita), it's definitely worth it. But personally, I'll wait until I can grab it for <$20, since it's still pretty recent that I made two complete runs to get the plat/100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleriel Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 My understanding (not 100% sure) is that You can use a Vita for the "second screen experience" It includes all DLC (pre-order bonuses as well?) Boss battles are reconfigured to allow use of stealth, hacking, etc. New Game+ mode allows you to keep all upgrades (not sure if that affects trophies) Improved graphics and AI I'd say if you're a big fan of the game (and have a Vita), it's definitely worth it. But personally, I'll wait until I can grab it for <$20, since it's still pretty recent that I made two complete runs to get the plat/100%. the pre-order bonuses are all available in the form of DLC now (explosive pack etc) ... so yeah, they're included. now let me add a question: do I have to have a Vita to play it? (I do have one, but I have a feeling it'll be slightly annoying to use it like the wii-u gamepad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreJinks Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Na you dont need a vita to play this game its just the same game with dlc trophys added you need to do the dlc for the plat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizoc Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Just an FYI that the game is $20 for PC/Steam IIRC. If you can trade in your original copy of HR, you can trim down a bit on the regular price of $30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPER Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Are the trophies separate from the original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleriel Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Are the trophies separate from the original? yes. they changed a few trophies around from silver to gold (or the other way around, I forget) ... so we get another list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmm121182 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) Are the trophies separate from the original? Yep. Here's the official Trophy List for Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut... Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Director's Cut Trophies - PSNProfiles.com The game was just released today (10/22/13), so we should definitely have a separate forum for the Director's Cut very soon. I can't believe one hasn't even been created yet... Edited October 22, 2013 by dmm121182 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPER Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Yep. Here's the official Trophy List for Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut... Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Director's Cut Trophies - PSNProfiles.com The game was just released today (10/22/13), so we should definitely have a separate forum for the Director's Cut very soon. I can't believe one hasn't even been created yet... Wow. Excited. I will plat this one then too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninuchin Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 what only one gold? bye this game i´m already plat the other game plus 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbeth Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Degraded trophy list? That's awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AegisAvenger Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 That's because they integrated the DLC trophies. Now we must also complete the DLC trophies to get the new Platinum. There a limit to how many trophies for each games. The higher the trophies are in a game, there will be more Bronze and less Gold. The lower the trophies are in a game, there will be more Gold and less Bronze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoPoF Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Has anyone tried playing it with the Vita as a controler yet? I'm curious how well that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White-Wolf Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 So, what exactly was wrong with the original game that made them remake it all over? Was it really that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleriel Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 So, what exactly was wrong with the original game that made them remake it all over? Was it really that bad? bad? no, by no means bad. really good in fact. sold a ton of copies across all platforms. there were a few kinks though... like all the boss-fights were outsourced to another company, and so they didn't mesh well with the rest of the game. In every other part of the game there are a plethora of ways to solve a problem... but all the bosses are bullet-sponges... so if you played the game as a stealth-bastard with only the tranq-rifle and the stun-gun... you would have no way to kill the bosses. the DLC weren't baked into the actual game... you had to play it seperately. even though the DLC is definitely set between two chapters of the game, when you get to those two chapters, it's as if the DLC never happened. no new-game+ option. you'd start from scratch every time you started over... which makes sense for most games, I suppose... but this is a really nice option to have. they've fixed all those in this release. which is why it's called Director's Cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrick97 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 there were a few kinks though... like all the boss-fights were outsourced to another company, and so they didn't mesh well with the rest of the game. In every other part of the game there are a plethora of ways to solve a problem... but all the bosses are bullet-sponges... so if you played the game as a stealth-bastard with only the tranq-rifle and the stun-gun... you would have no way to kill the bosses. This is not true at all. Your quote implies that boss battles weren't winnable if you built a stealth character. The boss battles areas always had weapons for you to pick up and use. Its true that they were much harder for people who had stealth based characters, but they could still be beaten and quite frankly they weren't THAT hard even with those restrictions on the hardest difficulty. Badly designed? Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White-Wolf Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I see. Thanks for the answer. So i guess picking up the director's cut would be the best option for me. ( i didn't play the original and don't have it either ) I'm mostly pleased to know of the existence of the NG+, since i tend to make a blind playthrough at first, then i go for trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPER Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 So this version has a new game+ mode? Can you keep adding praxis kits to your abilities, can you max everything out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkByke Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 This is not true at all. Your quote implies that boss battles weren't winnable if you built a stealth character. The boss battles areas always had weapons for you to pick up and use. Its true that they were much harder for people who had stealth based characters, but they could still be beaten and quite frankly they weren't THAT hard even with those restrictions on the hardest difficulty. Badly designed? Absolutely. He was exaggerating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleriel Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) This is not true at all. Your quote implies that boss battles weren't winnable if you built a stealth character. The boss battles areas always had weapons for you to pick up and use. Its true that they were much harder for people who had stealth based characters, but they could still be beaten and quite frankly they weren't THAT hard even with those restrictions on the hardest difficulty. Badly designed? Absolutely. He was exaggerating. you're both right... unupgraded weapons are available... and no matter which corner of the room(s) you run, you will be able to find a little ammo... to win you have to pick up all the weapons, though... if it's your first playthrough, though... you might not know where the weapons are... or even that they exist there at all. especially a problem when facing the female boss... as the room is circular and she runs all over the place so there's no real place to hide, etc. So this version has a new game+ mode? Can you keep adding praxis kits to your abilities, can you max everything out? that's the idea, yeah. I don't know it they let you keep weapons and credits too... I'm in the EU so I haven't been able to pick it up yet. nor do I know how they've handled the addition of the DLC (which will clear all of your upgrades as part of the story) ... if that's put in as a form of organic respec of sorts. Edited October 23, 2013 by eleriel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4wgers Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Has anyone tried playing it with the Vita as a controler yet? I'm curious how well that works. I have and I'm not sure if I'm the only one who ran into this issue but so far it's pretty much unplayable. They basically divide the rear touch of the Vita into 4 sections, each one corresponding to one of the extra buttons from the actual controller (L2, L3, R2, R3) which you are supposed to just tap a certain area in order to trigger the corresponding button - I'm not even sure how well that would work, sounds kinda crappy honestly, but I'm not gonna be judging it since it currently does not work at all. Again, this might just be my Vita, although I don't see why seeing as every other button works just fine through Remote Play and my rear touch is working just as well outside of Remote Play. With that aside, having a Vita for the hacking parts seemed like it would be convenient and make life easier at first. Rather then waiting for the analog to get to the node you'd like to mess with, you could simply touch that node, making the hacking process much faster, right? Well, that wasn't the case for me, lol. Maybe I just suck at using the touch screen but the nodes are actually very small in your Vita screen, making it hard to actually hit the right ones when in a hurry (which you will inevitably find yourself in during certain hacks) making the whole Vita addition, although kind of a cute experience, totally useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbeth Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 By the way, what are the boss changes? Can you avoid killing the bosses and deal with then in a non-lethal way? Are stun-locks via mines or stun gun are still working? Can you still defeat Jaron with one precise hit in the face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheViper561 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I came close to plat the original, I was only missing the trophy in that u can't set off alarms and so on. I guess from what everyone is saying this one is not bad to run again, I enjoyed the 1st one. Too bad there are a lot of releases coming up plus Ps4 right around the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceyice Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 They dropped 'Doctorate' to a Bronze? That is a seriously missable trophy that is annoying. It should have stayed a Silver, because you can't get the last one 'til near the very end of the game! Let me add for new players that you WILL miss this trophy w/o a guide. There are at least 2 books that are easy to miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleriel Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 They dropped 'Doctorate' to a Bronze? That is a seriously missable trophy that is annoying. It should have stayed a Silver, because you can't get the last one 'til near the very end of the game! Let me add for new players that you WILL miss this trophy w/o a guide. There are at least 2 books that are easy to miss. Gold, silver and bronze trophies are always a set percentage of the total amount of trophies... And so when they put the DLC trophies in with the original trophies, they had to change things around. And yeah, without a guide you're screwed on the doctorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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