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Old 10-25-2009, 05:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Can someone please give even more dumbed-down instructions for this?

To the person that suggested staying in the corner and using ice swords with Jin, are you serious? I can't get like more than 2 off that Ragna doesn't dodge before he comes at me and the starts bouncing me off the walls with uppercuts, leading to the inevitable Distortion of D-baggery.

The video above with the (ice Car + Throw) looks great but, I almost never end up grabbing Ragna (with Jin). I end up flailing the sword about wildly. Which sometimes gets you a bunch of hits but eventually Ragna begins uppercuts + Distortion of D-B again. It seems like maybe you have to actually briefly wait for Ragna to 'get up', but if you fail to grab or there's like a tiny gap between you, then the cycle of death as described above ensues.

Also, I've researched all over and someone mentioned that since Ragna will almost always charge at you as soon as the fight starts, you should "hit the right stick immediately" which allows you to 'grab Ragna'. What are they talking about? Hit the right stick in which direction? And I thought R1 is 'throw'. Is it totally different on the 360?

I get that not everyone is meant to accomplish everything but not being able to do this with a 2P cheat, shortcut specials and spamming is pretty frustrating.

Any further advice appreciated, thanks.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:08 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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hey man i suggest you use tager hes got the most health and deals loads of damage and if you can't pull his moves off then use the easy stick(right analog) pretty much use down d(x) to close gaps and when they are close hit the right analog up to do devasting grapple and practice blocking. when it comes to ragna block then 360 b(triangle)which is right analog up if u use the easy special moves it cancels almosteverything and if ragna tries the distrotion where he grabs you jus up on right bam canceled if you got anymore questions send me a friend request with blazblue in the body
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for the reply!

When I wrote that I basically wasn't going to turn off my PS3 until I beat Unlimited Ragna with Jin. I got better at the Jin technique but still could only win if Unlimited Ragna 'let' me grab and ice car him to death in 1 or 2 long chains. And it never happened in 2 rounds out of 3. After two days (during which I never turned off the PS3) one time we were both kind of low on life in Round 3 and I went for the kill instead of interrupting with the 2P; but of course I died and I haven't touched BlazBlue since.

I'm willing to try the Tager thing. I'll let you know how it goes!
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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The easiest way to do it is use Jin. At the beginning of the match ragna will always charge you. As soon as the match starts jump back and throw an ice sword. Keep your distance and use ice sword. If ice sword hits immediately do his distortion where he slashes and ice flies across the screen. When you get close enough grab him. Be sure to use R1 its the easiest without accidentally hitting the wrong button. When you grab him ice car him. As soon as he recovers grab him and repeat. The whole purpose is that as soon as ragna gets up he will always try to grab you. By grabbing him it will always get you a counter throw and he won't be able to do anything. In the instance that he doesn't grab you when you grab him he will tech you and immediately hells fang your ass. So block it and rinse and repeat. Variate your swords as well. The A is faster than the other ones. Keep at it. Ragna is very difficult but it takes a lot of skill and timing and patience. If you have trouble i would suggest practicing on unlimited ragna in training mode. Just turn on your health to regenerate and try to figure out his moves.

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Old 11-04-2009, 04:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
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Update: Tried Tager... saw how it could be easier to beat UR (less need for perfect timing than Jin, I think) but I am so bad with him that I was having too much trouble even getting to UR

Thx for the post, phillip!

As mentioned before, I have beaten UR in a few rounds with Jin, but basically only if UR decides not to block/counter too much. And that has not happened 2 out of 3 rounds in the same fight yet.

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So block it and rinse and repeat.
I know this sounds dumb but can you be more specific, please?

Jump back? What do you press exactly? When I do, I cannot move away fast enough to avoid the furor if UR decides to bum rush me from the get-go.

By block, do you just mean press "back direction", because most of the time it seems like his right hook or whatever is unblockable unless you happened to have launched an attack at the perfect time.

I guess the frustrating part isn't just how hard it is, but how you lose. I swear it feels like even if you're fortunate enough to have the upper hand in a round and UR is one blow from dying, the AI kicks it up a notch and just decides it's going to rough you up no matter what.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Jump back? What do you press exactly? When I do, I cannot move away fast enough to avoid the furor if UR decides to bum rush me from the get-go.

By block, do you just mean press "back direction", because most of the time it seems like his right hook or whatever is unblockable unless you happened to have launched an attack at the perfect time.

I guess the frustrating part isn't just how hard it is, but how you lose. I swear it feels like even if you're fortunate enough to have the upper hand in a round and UR is one blow from dying, the AI kicks it up a notch and just decides it's going to rough you up no matter what.
jump back. so immediately when the round starts, jump back, press diagonal up and back. if you're still getting hit, double tap back (or spam back as the round starts) to dash away as soon as the round begins. also, you can dash in the air so jump backwards and quickly double tap back. you'll dash away from him while jumping back.

block. yes, hold back direction, and don't forget hold down and back to block low attacks. you can also use your barrier.

it took me a solid 2 hours with jin. and yeah, i knwo what you mean. there were so many times i had one win already and was his health was just pixels. i'd still have half my life left and he'd still manage to kick my ass without me getting one measly hit. i swear one time i went right up to the tv and couldn't see ANY health left whatsoever as he proceeded to open a can of kickass on me.

general tips i see a lot are to use your distortion soon after you get 50%, R3 if i remember right, and barrier burst if he gets you with that retarded distortion that takes away 70% of your life.

so eventually i figured out a routine that worked for me, even though i did it the hard way. i started out with a few light attacks into ice car, tried to keep distance and spammed shooting ice sword until he died (occasional ice car, also good to move to other end of screen for distance). ice sword A, the one you want to use, is mapped onto the right analog stick but i forgot which direction.. sorry it's been a while since i've played. it was great cause even if he used distortion the second it starts he just runs into an ice sword. if you're close you can mash C or do ice car + rapid C but ONLY when he is recovering.

like i said, i just found a way that worked for me. it took some time and a lot of patience. keep at it and find a routine, and eventually you'll get it. trust me, the satisfaction you get after beating him might even be better than getting a plat! i know you can do it, don't give up
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:30 AM   #17 (permalink)
 
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izzy_k,

I really do appreciate all the advice and I do find a lot of it helpful!

I wasn't actually that obsessed with getting the trophy but with the way everyone's been so helpful, I do intend to see it through eventually so all your efforts don't go to waste.

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Score Attack aside, my feelings are really mixed about this game. I think it's well-made but I almost feel bad that all the talent and effort went to waste (IMO) on a really annoying & lame story and characters that I don't find interesting at all. I know some people think the story is really awesome but I find unnecessary suspense incredibly irritating, and I'm not a sci-fi nut but the story doesn't hang together at all.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:12 AM   #18 (permalink)
 
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Fighting games normally arent meant to have amazing storylines lol.
What do you expect? It's a fighting game!

Did you get unlimited ragna yet on score attack?
It's actually really easy with Jin, play safe until you get a chance to 214+C and B+C (throw) loop him. If you're almost dead, might as well press start on your 2nd controller and retry again.

If you can time it properly while doing it from the start to Ragna you should only need a try or two to finish it. Got it my 2nd try (when I tried the first day, I didn't know about the 2nd controller thing and lost with a sliver of health left after that I didn't wanna bother going through everyone again, but I got it easy the 2nd time I put the game in the ps3 and went through everyone easily)

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Old 01-23-2010, 02:04 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
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meh, ive been trying over an hour, have beat him one round... i try blocking at beginning then senzhou crazy slash thing then zoom away from him when he jumps out of it... sometimes works and get close but he does inferno to distortion= wtf lol
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The easiest way to do it is use Jin. At the beginning of the match ragna will always charge you. As soon as the match starts jump back and throw an ice sword. Keep your distance and use ice sword. If ice sword hits immediately do his distortion where he slashes and ice flies across the screen. When you get close enough grab him. Be sure to use R1 its the easiest without accidentally hitting the wrong button. When you grab him ice car him. As soon as he recovers grab him and repeat. The whole purpose is that as soon as ragna gets up he will always try to grab you. By grabbing him it will always get you a counter throw and he won't be able to do anything. In the instance that he doesn't grab you when you grab him he will tech you and immediately hells fang your ass. So block it and rinse and repeat. Variate your swords as well. The A is faster than the other ones. Keep at it. Ragna is very difficult but it takes a lot of skill and timing and patience. If you have trouble i would suggest practicing on unlimited ragna in training mode. Just turn on your health to regenerate and try to figure out his moves.
After some handful of tries... this above was very helpful to use. If he got scary close to me I would AIR Ice Car my ass outa that corner. Ice spam get 50% and super, but if i got a grab the above advice worked like a Charm
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