Hitchcocker Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) Credit to Ryukori for the banner. If you have found this guide useful and plan to register to this site as a member, please give me a referral upon signing up. The servers have now closed, thus the Platinum is unobtainable if you didn't get the online trophies before then. Overview - Estimated Platinum difficulty: 4/10 (Varies with skill) - Approximate time to Platinum: 20 hours+ (Varies with skill) - Offline: 45 - Online: 3 - Unobtainable - Trophy breakdown: 38 l 8 l 2 l 1 - Minimum playthroughs: 1 - Missable trophies: 0 - Do cheats disable trophies: YES - Does difficulty affect trophies: YES - Glitched trophies: NONE - Can Rock Band 2 instruments be used on this game:YES Introduction: Brought to you by the makers of Guitar Hero, one of the best-selling video game franchises of all time, Band Hero features the hottest chart-topping hits from everyone's favorite bands including No Doubt, Nelly Furtado, Lily Allen, The All-American Rejects and Jackson 5. Headlined by some of the leading names in music as in-game artists and playable characters, including singer, songwriter and guitarist Taylor Swift and Maroon 5 frontman Adam Levine, Band Hero is the ultimate party game where friends and family can choose to join the band or take five at any time without interrupting the performance, in Party Play mode. Band Hero allows fans to create the band of their dreams, using any combination of vocals and guitar or drum controllers, providing budding pop stars the chance to customize how they interact with and experience their favorite music. Walkthrough: Band Hero probably has the easiest Platinum in the Guitar Hero franchise. The 49 trophies are straightforward and the challenges can be obtained with help of online boosting partners or friends. Please proceed below for a step-by-step roadmap for the Platinum trophy. Step 1: Tutorial and Create A Song trophies The first thing I would recommend you to do is to complete the "Welcome to Band Hero" and "Studio Time" trophies. Simply go to GH Studios and create a song with a guitar or drum controller, save it to get "Studio Time" and complete all the tutorials using all four instruments to get "Welcome to Band Hero." Step 2: Four player trophies Next up, I would recommend that you find three partners using the boosting thread HERE or have three buddies over at your place and complete the four player trophies: "In The Moment", "A Cool Mill", "There's No 'I' in Band Hero", "Four of A Kind" and "Star Powered". Please proceed to the trophy guide below for further details. Do take note that the above trophies can be obtained online or offline. Step 3: Online trophies - Unobtainable There are three trophies that need to be done online "M.C.", "Face to Face" and "Till Death Do Us Part" but only "M.C." needs a boosting partner or friend to be completed. For "Face to Face" and "Till Death Do Us Part", simply connect two microphones (can be drums or guitars) and search for online players, after a while it will stop searching and ask you to select a song. Simply complete a Deathmatch and 25 Pro Face-offs to get the two trophies. Step 4: Career, Challenges and Secret Notes trophies By completing every song in Career mode and completing 50 challenges on Platinum or Diamond, you will unlock all career and challenge related trophies including the Secret Note 1-19, secret characters, complete every song, 100% song as vocalist, unlock all venues, stars and challenges trophies. The most convenient way to complete every song on Career mode is to place a table fan in front of your Microphone and start a career on Beginner difficulty that will give you six stars on every song. Do take note that to obtain Platinum or Diamond level on certain challenges, you may have to increase the difficulty in order to obtain sufficient points or hit sufficient notes in a streak to fulfill the requirements of these challenges. Step 5: Mop up If you have not obtained any of the above trophies in the initial run, now is the time to mop up. If you have, then you will realize that the only two trophies not mentioned so far are "Picture Perfect" which requires you to 100% a song on Medium difficulty or higher and "Star Light, Star Bright" which requires you to obtain 10,000 or more points on a single Star Power. I would recommend playing bass on Spice Girl's Wannabe for "Picture Perfect" trophy and David Bowie's Let's Dance or Maroon 5's She Will Be Loved for "Star Light, Star Bright". Closing notes If you have followed every step in the Road Map, you should have your Platinum trophy. For more details on how to obtain the above-mentioned trophies, please proceed below to the Trophy Guide. Edited February 18, 2020 by Terminator Added server closure notices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitchcocker Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) Trophy Guide http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/01.jpg Platinum Trophy Earn all of the Bronze, Silver and Gold Trophies in Band Hero UNOBTAINABLE, DUE TO SERVER CLOSURE Self explanatory. Unlock every other trophy to obtain the Platinum. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/02.jpgWelcome to Band Hero Complete all of the tutorials From the Main Menu, proceed to Training and select Tutorials. Complete all Vocals, Guitar, Bass, Drums and Band Play tutorials to unlock this trophy. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/23.jpgStudio Time Create a GH Studio song From the Main Menu, proceed to GH Studio and select GHMix 2.0 and create a song. You must have your drums or guitar set to Controller 1 and spam a few buttons. Save the song, exit and you should have this trophy. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/20.jpgIn The Moment Successfully complete a Band Moment In a four player band, make sure every player hits the fiery notes to activate a Band moment. I recommend having four microphones in front of table fans on Beginner difficulty for a short song to get this trophy. If not, have four players play Bass on She Will Be Loved. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/22.jpgA Cool Mill Score over 1,000,000 points as a band in any single song in Career or Quickplay This can be attained while aiming for "There's no 'I' in 'Band Hero." Have four players play Bass Expert on She Will Be Loved and you will easily get over 2,000,000 points by the end of the song. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/26.jpgThere's no 'I' in 'Band Hero Complete a song with 4 players without any members failing on expert in Career or Quickplay This can be attained quickly by creating a really short custom song and have four drums or guitar controllers and play the song on Expert or you can do it with the proper and slightly longer way by playing an easy song on Expert such as She Will Be Loved on Bass Expert. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/27.jpgFour of a Kind Complete a song as 4 of the same instrument on any difficulty in Quickplay or Career Either have four microphones in front of a table fan on Vocals-Beginner difficulty or find three friends and have everyone play a short song with the same instrument. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/28.jpg Star Powered Earn an 11x multiplier Play a song on Easy in a four player band and have everyone maintain a streak to have a 4x multiplier, save star power until you reach a Band Moment (fiery notes) and activate Star Power then. You will have a 4x multiplier from your streak, 4x multiplier from Star Power and 3x multiplier from Band Moment. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/14.jpg M.C. Host an online Career game and play a song UNOBTAINABLE, DUE TO SERVER CLOSURE Numerous users have had trouble finding random players online using Search so find someone who owns a copy of the game and Invite him and play a short song to unlock this trophy. To invite a person, go to Career, Friends and Invite. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/15.jpg Face to Face Complete 25 online Pro Face-Off matches, win or lose UNOBTAINABLE, DUE TO SERVER CLOSURE You will need an online connection for this trophy but you do not need to play with people online. If you have two of the same instruments, simply connect them to your Playstation 3, search for online players and select Pro Face-off mode. After a few seconds it will end the search and still allow you to select a song. Pick a short song, exit after the end of the song and repeat this step twenty-four more times for a quick trophy. To see if you know what you are doing, try this on "Till Death Do Us Part" and see if you get that trophy using this method to avoid wasting time doing it wrongly. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/16.jpg Till Death Do Us Part Play an online Do or Die game UNOBTAINABLE, DUE TO SERVER CLOSURE Connect two of the same instruments to your Playstation 3, search for online players and select Rockfest mode. After a few seconds it will end the search and still allow you to select a song. Pick a short song and vote for Do or Die mode. At the end of the song, you should get this trophy. Note: I had to play through Rockfest a few times before I was able to select Do or Die due to the numerous online modes available under Rockfest, Do or Die did not appear under the voting section until my third or forth Rockfest game. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/31.jpgSecret Notes 1 Hint: *e*** *c*****y Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/32.jpgSecret Notes 2 Hint: **n** ***k*** Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/33.jpgSecret Notes 3 Hint: *** *ol**** ****e* Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/34.jpgSecret Notes 4 Hint: **l* *ll** Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/35.jpgSecret Notes 5 Hint: A** * A* Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/36.jpgSecret Notes 6 (B)Hint: ***o*n 5 Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/37.jpgSecret Notes 7 (B)Hint: **v** *o*** Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/38.jpgSecret Notes 8 Hint: *v***s***c* Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/39.jpgSecret Notes 9 Hint: H***** Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/40.jpgSecret Notes 10 (B)Hint: *a* B****a* Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/41.jpgSecret Notes 11 Hint: *o ***b* Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/42.jpgSecret Notes 12 Hint: ***v** **y* Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/43.jpgSecret Notes 13 Hint: **i** *i*** Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/44.jpgSecret Notes 14 Hint: **ll*** ****l* Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/45.jpgSecret Notes 15 Hint: **l*** **ff Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/46.jpgSecret Notes 16 Hint: *e***w***d Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/47.jpgSecret Notes 17 Hint: *h* *ll-**e***** **j**** Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/48.jpgSecret Notes 18 Hint: **y O***** Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/49.jpgSecret Notes 19 Hint: **r* **u**** Please see "Treasure Hunt" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/30.jpgTreasure Hunt Collect all of the Secret Notes The 19 songs needed for all Secret Notes trophies in alphabetical order is below: "Beautiful Soul" - Jesse McCartney "Black Cat" - Janet Jackson "Bring Me to Life" - Evanescence "Dirty Little Secret" - The All-American Rejects "Don't Speak" - No Doubt "Honky Tonk Women" - The Rolling Stones "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" - Marvin Gaye "Kung Fu Fighting" - Carl Douglas "Let's Dance"- David Bowie "Like Whoa" - Aly & AJ "Lips of an Angel" - Hinder "Love is a Battlefield" - Pat Benatar "Ocean Avenue" - Yellowcard "Oh, Pretty Woman" - Roy Orbison "She Will Be Loved" - Maroon 5 "So Yesterday" - Hilary Duff "Take What You Take" - Lily Allen "Wannabe" - Spice Girls "Y.M.C.A." - Village People The songs can be completed in either Quickplay or Career mode but to minimize your trouble and playing time, I would seriously recommend that you place a microphone in front of a table fan and let the game play by itself on these 19 songs in Career mode on Vocals-Beginner difficulty as I had to replay some of the songs since I did not unlock some secret notes even on 99% Bass Easy mode. To unlock certain songs in Career mode, you will have to go get enough stars in each venue to unlock a new venue with new songs in it. For more information on how to progress through career mode, please read below. Edited February 18, 2020 by Terminator Added server closure notices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitchcocker Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/11.jpgMy First Gig Complete a Career gig on any difficulty This trophy will be unlocked after you play your first song in Career mode. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/24.jpgFevered Pitch 100% a song as a vocalist Simply place a table fan in front of a microphone, select any song on Vocals-Beginner difficulty and this will unlock at the end of the song. If you do not have a table fan, blow into the microphone! http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/03.jpgRise to Fame Complete 25% of the gigs in Career Please see "Testing the Waters" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/04.jpgNation's Star Complete 50% of the gigs in Career Please see "Testing the Waters" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/05.jpgWorld Known Complete 75% of the gigs in Career Please see "Testing the Waters" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/19.jpgTesting the Waters Play through every Band Hero song once By playing through every song in each venue under Career mode, you would have unlocked this trophy. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/13.jpgThe Long Road Ahead (G)Complete Career on any difficulty with any instrument Progress through each venue with enough stars and play the last song in the Amp Orbiter to unlock the Hyperspace venue and unlock this trophy. You do not need to play through every song to unlock this trophy. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/25.jpgJack of All Trades Complete at least one challenge for every instrument at Gold level or better To arrive at Gold level for a challenge, you will need one out of three stars. There are four types of instruments namely Bass, Guitar, Vocals and Drums. Get one star on a challenge for each instrument and this trophy will unlock. If you are having trouble with challenges for a certain instrument, join or invite a friend into Career mode and ask him to help you with the challenges. It does not matter who is the host as long as one player in the band fulfills the requirements for each challenge, the whole band will get the stars. Alternatively, if you do not have friends who own the game, please use the Boosting thread to ask for help. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/09.jpgPlatinum Blonde Earn Platinum level on a Career Challange Please see "Iced Out" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/10.jpgIced Out Earn Diamond level on a Career Challenge To earn Diamond level on a career challenge, you will need 3 out of 3 stars for a challenge. If you have not already unlocked "Platinum Blonde", you will unlock that trophy as well once you earn Diamond level on a career challenge. If you are having trouble with challenges for a certain instrument, join or invite a friend into Career mode and ask him to help you with the challenges. It does not matter who is the host as long as one player in the band fulfills the requirements for each challenge, the whole band will get the stars. Alternatively, if you do not have friends who own the game, please use the Boosting thread to ask for help. Do take note that to obtain Platinum or Diamond level on certain challenges, you may have to increase the difficulty in order to obtain sufficient points or hit sufficient notes in a streak to fulfill the requirements of these challenges. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/18.jpgA New Challenge Awaits Complete 50 of the Career Challenges at Platinum or Diamond Every song has a specific challenge attached to it, be it a Vocal, Drum, Bass, Guitar or Band challenge. Complete 50 of these challenges to unlock this trophy. If you are having trouble with certain challenges, invite a friend in Career Mode though the Playstation Network and ask them to help you out. Alternatively, if you do not have friends who own the game, please use the Boosting thread to ask for help. Do take note that to obtain Platinum or Diamond level on certain challenges, you may have to increase the difficulty in order to obtain sufficient points or hit sufficient notes in a streak to fulfill the requirements of these challenges. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/06.jpgGlimmer Earn 111 Stars in Career Please see "Shine" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/07.jpgSparkle Earn 333 Stars in Career Please see "Shine" below. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/08.jpgShine Earn 555 Stars in Career If you have used the method mentioned in the Road Map and completed every song on Career mode by placing a table fan in front of your Microphone on Vocals, Beginner difficulty, you would have six stars on all 81 songs, providing you with 486 stars. The remaining 69 stars will have to be obtained through career challenges. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/12.jpgRoad Most Travelled Unlock every venue By having enough stars in each venue, you will unlock a new venue. If you have played the last song in the Amp Orbiter to unlock the Hyperspace venue and still do not have this trophy, do not worry. Simply go to the La Luz de Madrid venue and play the song The Adventure by Angels & Airwaves to unlock the Wormhole venue. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/17.jpgNice to Meet You Complete the gigs and unlock all of the celebrity characters Play through the following songs in Career Mode to unlock all of the celebrity characters: Love Story - Taylor Swift She Will Be Loved - Maroon 5 Don't Speak - No Doubt Just A Girl - No Doubt http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/29.jpgPicture Perfect Streak through an entire song without missing a note on medium or harder difficulty Play a short and simple song like Spice Girl's Wannabe on Bass Medium difficulty. The song is under 3 minutes long and the notes far apart from one another, making it a very simple song to breeze through. http://www.ps3trophies.org/images/trophies/271/21.jpgStar Light, Star Bright Score over 10,000 points while in a single Star Power deployment in Career or Quickplay Maintain a 4x multiplier and have Star Power filled completely before activating it in a part of a song where there are a lot of notes. I played Let's Dance on Bass Medium difficulty for this trophy. Edited January 15, 2020 by Terminator Moved the Platinum to its proper place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitchcocker Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) This guide is completed. The content has been edited at the request of PS3Trophies.org guide team members. No further changes will be made to the guide, unless at the request of guide team members. This guide is to be used by PS3Trophies.org only. If you see this guide elsewhere, please let me know. Kindly ask for my permission before duplicating any content of this guide elsewhere. Edited January 15, 2020 by Terminator Removed signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendel Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 *thread stickied* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 - Can Rock Band 2 instruments be used on this game:YES Step 1: Tutorial and Create A Song trophies The first thing I would recommend you to do is to complete the "Welcome to Band Hero" and "Studio Time" trophies. Simply go to GH Studios and create a song with a guitar or drum controller, save it to get "Studio Time" and complete all the tutorials using all four instruments to get "Welcome to Band Hero." You say here that Rock Band Instruments can be used on this game, is that stating that it can be used to complete the game or will the people playing have to have the Guitar Hero drums to complete the tutorials as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squodge Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 You say here that Rock Band Instruments can be used on this game, is that stating that it can be used to complete the game or will the people playing have to have the Guitar Hero drums to complete the tutorials as well? The trophy guide is spot on. I have the Rock Band drum kit, and I got the trophy for completing the tutorials. The last lesson of the tutorial is about the double kick pedal, and you can do it with one pedal - it just means your foot is doing the job of two feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitchcocker Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 You say here that Rock Band Instruments can be used on this game, is that stating that it can be used to complete the game or will the people playing have to have the Guitar Hero drums to complete the tutorials as well? I would have mentioned it if it couldn't be used. And I used the RB2 kit throughout this game and found no problem obtaining the trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csv24 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Can I obtain "Star Powered" trophy only with a mic and a guitar in Beginner level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamiAmaya Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Can I obtain "Star Powered" trophy only with a mic and a guitar in Beginner level? Nope you need 4 instruments. Play a song on Easy in a four player band and have everyone mantain a streak to have a 4x multiplier, save star power until you reach a Band Moment (fiery notes) and activate Star Power then. You will have a 4x multiplier from your streak, 4x multiplier from Star Power and 3x multiplier from Band Moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukaszek Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Do I need table fan? Can be something diffrent that make a noise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priddo Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Ok I got this plat with only having to play online once IIRC (hosting a career trophy) My suggestion for the 11x: If you have 2 mics and 2 drums, you can try doing what I did. Set the two mics infront of a fan or something that'll make noise that'lll register in them, and set them to beginner. Set your drumkits to beginner as well, and sit them next to each other so you can hit one pad on each and be able to read the pads for star power with ease. Sit the controllers for the mics under each of your feet so you can push them on for SP at the right time. Play through until you get to a band moment and have SP on all 4 and actvate them to get it. I suggest Wannabe's second band moment. During the band moment there is a nice gap on the drums to make it easier to put SP on without dropping notes or rushing too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowmoser Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I already did 25 Pro Faceoff matches, putting 2 microphones in front of the fan, but the trophy didn't came. Is it because the match is ending in draw, no one winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Omniscient Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 great guide, it helped a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priddo Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I already did 25 Pro Faceoff matches, putting 2 microphones in front of the fan, but the trophy didn't came. Is it because the match is ending in draw, no one winning? I did that without the fan, and got the trophy. Are you making sure to do it online and have it search each time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezenko Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) Great guide! I'm considering buying this game, and I think I will use this guide a lot! Edited May 1, 2010 by Bezenko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbrickson89 Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 With all respect, but the roadmap here is the worst I have read. Pretty much what its all to me is use a fan do beginner on vocal and let the songs play...that's all I see for almost every trophy...the roadmap is for people who don't play the game for fun or anything...just cheating purposes. My advice is yes keep the mic idea and fan...but put it below a paragraph explaining how to do it the real way without cheating like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightowl_80 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 How can I get 4 mics so I can get the four of a kind trophy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookem Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 This site rocks, thanks Hitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion_420 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 great guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roozzzzz Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Good job on the guide:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteclone Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Great guide! Just wanted to add this: If you've never played a music game and wanted to attempt a platinum on a music game for the first time, this is easily the best one to start with. Very quick platinum, very fun, very easy. Recommended to all music lovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_Warrior666 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 thanks this is a very helpful and useful guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocobo115 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) it seems like I can't get the solo matchmaking trick to work, does anyone know if it was fixed? EDIT: Nvr mind figured out what I did wrong... Edited August 16, 2010 by Chocobo115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester695 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I just got the In the Moment trophy with only 2 players, so I guess it doesn't have to be a 4-player band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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