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Old 11-02-2012, 12:57 AM   #1
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Default Fanorona (EXPERT) Easy Win Method

Just want to share this Fanorona (EXPERT) Easy-Win Method to anyone who is frustrated playing with the old man(Achilles).

This method is kinda simple: you use computer(this program) to play with computer(ACIII)
Fanorona (java is needed, and also thanks to the program creator David Eppstein)
If you don't know how to play Fanorona, make sure to enable the Long move log format under options, although it is recommended to learn it 'cause it's fun

I won on my first try


HOW IT WORKS
Before playing, you might want do a setup first.
After that, let Achilles(ACIII) play first, input his moves in this program and you will rip him off in no time
P.S. This method could also be able to be applied on other games as well

THE SETUP
[Important!]Make sure the settings is saved after the changes, it seems that some browsers will reverse your changes and cause failure to this method. Using another browser might help.(Thanks BBurgSteve for this)

Under Level: Three-ply fixed depth search(Necessary, thanks to Obie83)
Under Options:
  1. Computer plays black pieces
  2. Human plays white pieces
  3. White pieces start at top
  4. White makes first move
  5. Long move log format
  6. Mulitple captures on first move ok(might not be necessary)

INSTRUCTION: HOW TO MOVE AND TAKE
*Remember you(Achilles) are the White pieces
  1. To move your desired white piece, instead of clicking on it, you choose the black piece to take.
    [Important!]If you choose a black piece but the program doesn't move, it means more than 1 white piece can be use to take that particular piece. You will need to click on the white piece and DRAG it to the position you want to move.
  2. Repeat the above if there are multiple takes.
  3. When your move ends, black piece will automatically move and THIS is your respond move to put back in the game.
  4. *Sometimes Achilles stop his move even if he can take more, in that case, you should use PASS.
  5. In late games where you have to move without taking pieces, this time you click on the White piece and click on the position you want to move.
(If you made a mistake moving, you can always use the UNDO button)

INSTRUCTION: HOW TO READ THE MOVE LOG
(Reminder: This requires you to enable Long move log format under options first)
If you couldn't figure out your respond move, you can use the move log as a reference. Here it uses Column a to i (left to right) and Row 5 to 1 (top to bottom) to label the pieces and every step is outlined in the format of "Movement x taken pieces". For example, "d3-e3 x f3" means it goes from d3 to e3 and it took f3 in this movement.

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Old 11-02-2012, 02:11 AM   #2
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shouldn't it be!
[2] Computer plays white pieces

If want to see moves
Level: should be set to "1 1/2 to 10 second/move" or even 10 to 60 so you can see the moves or they just move instantly and your like WTF! second/move if is set to Computer vs Computer! still happens to fast with other setting! or just pick fastest and read Move Log!

up to a point PC vs PC may get in a Draw but keep going!

Not sure to read this Move log! found an Image
White Won
1. e4>e3 d2<e1>e2
2. f3>e3<e4 f2>e3<e2
3. c4>c3<d3>d2<c2 b2<c1
4. a4>a3>b2<b3 g3<f2>f3
5. g4>g3<f4<f5 h1>h2
6. g5>h4>h3 i2>i3
7. h3<g3 f1-f2
8. g3<h4
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:30 AM   #3
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough. When I said computer vs computer, I meant computer(AC III) vs computer(the program).

So to use this program, you(Human) input Achilles's move and it will give you a respond move. That's why you have to let Achilles to play first. Then use the respond in game and repeat.

And for the detailed movements, yeah it is too fast but it should be easy to figure out the program's move
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:01 AM   #4
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Ok that make sense! i'll try that!

But the other way could help learn how to play the game! by watching two computers play for those that want to learn and play!
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:43 AM   #5
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thanks for the Fanorona program

also found java programs for playing variations of Morris:

Morris Games

pick the game you want to play, and whether computer plays black or white... and go from there I guess
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:47 AM   #6
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The games are not impossible to beat legit. Yea they are tough as hell and I wanted to break everything around me. But when I finally won it was so satisfying. Y'all should really give it a good attempt before trying this program. What's irritating is , everyone's gonna get these hard ass games done this way and vote it a 3/10 difficulty, just that trophy alone is a 9/10 legit if not higher
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:25 AM   #7
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each to their own I'm having fun playing against intermediate opponents in Boston, but these programs will be helpful if I can't manage to beat the experts.

this is ps3t afterall, plenty of people are driven by trophies rather than challenges, and of course, this kind of shortcut knowledge will be shared.
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:31 AM   #8
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thanks for the Fanorona program

also found java programs for playing variations of Morris:

Morris Games

pick the game you want to play, and whether computer plays black or white... and go from there I guess
I had to use this Game of Morris that other one froze to much and was slow! but this doesn't let you slide back for between to spots!

I really ended up using this one Morris game from some other post
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:08 AM   #9
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Wow, it took me a little bit of time to figure out what was going on in this program, but I figured it out and beat him first try. Thanks!
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:40 PM   #10
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I might want to go back in the end and use this... because I'm unable to even get close to winning any of the board games!
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