HenryHSH Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Please, can you guys post your stats here? I need, the number of bronze, silver and gold trophies you have including the percentage. To be more specific, I'm aiming for people that have at least 1 gold trophy. We're trying to figure out how the percentage works because it's based on points not only the number of trophies you have. Any help would be appreciated. My numbers: 9 bronze, 4 silver, 1 gold = 69% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcktlnt Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 You mean like this? Bronze - 7 Silver - 4 Gold - 1 percent = 63 --- Edit --- Between you and me, the difference is 2 bronzes. Does that mean each bronze is 3 percent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADPolicenaut Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Gold - 1 Silver - 4 Bronze - 9 69% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanR2N Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Bronze - 8 Silver - 4 Gold - 1 Percent = 66% However before the gold I was: Bronze - 8 Silver - 4 Gold - 0 Percent = 48% Just for fun stats. I've played around with the numbers a bit and it's fairly obvious to me that what we see on the trophy collection is rounded. So my 66% could be anyhere from 65.1% to 66.49% (assuming the US standard rounding) I was playing around with it and to me it looks like the bronze are approx 2.75%, silver 6.55%, and gold 17.85%. Those aren't exactly correct as they don't add up to 100% but I think it's close to the right values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eambo Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I have them all except for Late Boomer and Brothers in Arms - 75% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesico Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Couldn't it be that the each trophy type has a hidden value that is different to each other. For example, some gold trophies being worth more than others. To confirm/disconfirm that we should look at people with different trophies, but same amount. For example, both person a and b has 1 gold trophy, but different ones and then see if the percentage is equal. Heres my stats: 8 bronze 4 silver 1 gold Percentage: 66% Trophies I don't have: Extra Ships Optional Late Boomer Shock And Awe Borthers In Arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanR2N Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Couldn't it be that the each trophy type has a hidden value that is different to each other. For example, some gold trophies being worth more than others. I've wondered that as well. I'll use a 360 game as a discussion point: The game Galaga is worth 200 points: Breakdown can be seen here. If that game were brought to PSN, and the achs were translated into trophies. Could the devs keep the underlying point values and just say that any achievement 1-15 is a bronze, 16-25 is a silver and 26-30 is a gold giving Galaga 7 Bronze 2 Silver 3 Gold But with each trophy actually being worth different amounts? Or do all trophies of the same type have the same underlying point value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflontactics Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Bronze - 8 Silver - 4 Gold - 1 Percent = 66% However before the gold I was: Bronze - 8 Silver - 4 Gold - 0 Percent = 48% Just for fun stats. I've played around with the numbers a bit and it's fairly obvious to me that what we see on the trophy collection is rounded. So my 66% could be anyhere from 65.1% to 66.49% (assuming the US standard rounding) I was playing around with it and to me it looks like the bronze are approx 2.75%, silver 6.55%, and gold 17.85%. Those aren't exactly correct as they don't add up to 100% but I think it's close to the right values. How did you calculate that? I came up with 3% for Bronze, 6% for Silver, and 18 Percent for gold. Besides, it wont be the same in every game, as every game will have a different amount of trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 How did you calculate that? I came up with 3% for Bronze, 6% for Silver, and 18 Percent for gold. Besides, it wont be the same in every game, as every game will have a different amount of trophies. So did we... You say that though tef, but it gives a perfect indication of the weighting of trophies for the levels. Bronze are worth 1, silver 2 and gold 6 for example. And with the 3, 6, 18 formula, it works out to 99%, so could the other 1% be a floating percent that would eventually be the Platinum for Retail games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryHSH Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 My conclusion (And Webb's) is that it's either rounded or has a floating 1%. If we have e.g Bronze = 3 pts Silver = 6 pts Gold = 18 pts (double, then triple) We get 99% in every case. 8*03 = 24 4*06 = 24 1*18 = 18 24+24+18 = 66% Tried working with linear equations but they don't work because you'll need 0 > unknowns I think. They work when you have trophies of each kind, but not when you don't have gold, or silver, etc. I've found numbers that are very close to what the answer should be to come up with 100%. (I had smaller numbers with 1 decimal but I lost the paper I wrote it on.) bronze = 2.75 silver = 6.625 gold = 17.75 Anyway, I think the floating 1% works best. I'm sure the more games we have, the better we'll understand how it works but for now I think it's the closest. Edit: Glad someone else got the same results. We had these before I asked around here, but I just wanted to use different values and see if we'd still get the same %. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflontactics Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Okay, I see what you're saying, but how I see it, is that it can only be a ratio. Bronze is worth 1/6th of a gold, and 1/2 of a silver, and silver is worth 1/3 of gold. I believe this is true, due to the fact that 1/2/6 weighing would only allow for a maximum of ~51 trophies, at the current bronze/silver/gold ratio of 9:6:2, while we know that Warhawk will have 56 to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Okay, I see what you're saying, but how I see it, is that it can only be a ratio. Bronze is worth 1/6th of a gold, and 1/2 of a silver, and silver is worth 1/3 of gold. That is exactly what I was getting at. It's a simple, double, triple. Double bronze to get equivalent to a silver and treble silver to get the equivalent to a gold. I'm happy with that. A nice little stat crunch there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryHSH Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 Yeah, that works. Now we need to apply it to our trophies page so we get accurate percentages. Thanks for everyone, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanR2N Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 (edited) How did you calculate that? I came up with 3% for Bronze, 6% for Silver, and 18 Percent for gold. Besides, it wont be the same in every game, as every game will have a different amount of trophies. Because if you add up those percentages then you'll only be at 99% Also, at one point I only had a few bronze but if I added up 3% per bronze I was over what my trophy percentage online says. I just think by assigning whole number values to the percentages, that it's oversimplifying it. Edited July 4, 2008 by DuncanR2N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanR2N Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 (edited) OK, scratch what I said. Ratios are a whole different matter. I only got 99 cause I was using whole numbers but when I used 1/33, 2/33, and 6/33, that totalled 100% (obviously) However, I still could have sworn, that at one point I had 6 bronze trophies, which according to the above ratios would put me at 18% and change but thought that online it said I was at 17% Also, right now I'm at 66% and according to the ratios I should be at 66.666667% so rounded that would be 67% Edited July 4, 2008 by DuncanR2N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarlordTm Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 OK, here's what I think might be the right numbers: Bronze: 2,75% Silver: 6,50% Gold: 18% It works in every case mentioned above: 8/4/0 = 48% 8/4/1 = 66% 7/4/1 = 63,25 ~ 63% 9/4/1 = 68,75 ~ 69% 6/0/0 = 16,5 ~ 17% 9/6/2 = 99,75 ~ 100% OR To make up for the missing 0,25 when all trophies are earned: Bronze: 2,75% Silver: 6,5% Gold: 18,125% 8/4/0 = 48% 8/4/1 = 66,125 ~ 66% 7/4/1 = 63,375 ~ 63% 9/4/1 = 68,875 ~ 69% 6/0/0 = 16,5 ~ 17% 9/6/2 = 100% OR Bronze: 2,75% Silver: 6,541666667% Gold: 18% 8/4/0 = 48,16667 ~ 48% 8/4/1 = 66,16667 ~ 66% 7/4/1 = 63,416667 ~ 63% 9/4/1 = 68,916667 ~ 69% 6/0/0 = 16,5 ~ 17% 9/6/2 = 100% I personally think 2,75/6,5/18,125 works best. It looks the most logical and you get exactly 100%. These might not be the right numbers but I think I'm very close. It might help if other people told us which trophies they have. If someone has all the bronze trophies and no silver or gold if would be very helpful to hear what percentage he/she has. I hope there'll be other games with trophies soon, it will be a lot easier to see how the calculating system actually works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefjk Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 ... ... My numbers: 9 bronze, 4 silver, 1 gold = 69% Same as you man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamerias Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 4 Bronze 1 Silver 29% Level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respectothers_01 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Broze= 9 Silver= 5 Gold= 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryHSH Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 Same as you man! Have them all now. Anyway, if you guys haven't noticed, we've already came up with a conclusion for now so there's no need for your SSHD stats anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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